the framework.
I do not disagree that this page can be improved further
(which is the purpose and strongpoint of wikipedia), but
explaining in laymans terms what a formal ontology is about
is a challenge.
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Phil> Yeah, Robert has my main beef which is the distinction
>> between the representation language and the representation
>> itself.
Alan> Yup. Though there is too often a confusion between the
Alan> ontology and the represen
lenge.
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explaining in laymans terms what a formal ontology is about is
a challenge.
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> this distinction is quite telling. Putting "define: ontology" into
> Google has very revealling results.
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'd be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about
"algorithms&quo
On Jan 24, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
Phil> Hmmm. Sure I wrote more than that in my original email.
Didn't see more. But great that everybody jumped in :)
Phil> Yeah, Robert has my main beef which is the distinction
between the
representation language and the representation i
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Hmmm. Sure I wrote more than that in my original email.
Yeah, Robert has my main beef which is the distinction between the
representation language and the representation itself. The use of
"algorithms" is clearly w
Hmmm. Sure I wrote more than that in my original email.
Yeah, Robert has my main beef which is the distinction between the
representation language and the representation itself. The use of
"algorithms" is clearly wrong and I don't think that an upper ontology
provides consistency checks, nor th
I agree with Phil and Robert.
Even if it does not contain a definition I fully agree with, a slighty
better wikipedia page is [1], which makes a distinction between domain
ontologies and upper ontologies [2].
But I'm just a semantic web girl and not an ontologist...
Irene
[1] http://en.wikipedia
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/'d be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about
"algorithms" has come from. The other mistake, I think, is
not to
make the distinction between formality of lang
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/'d be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about
"algorithms" has come from. The other mistake, I think, is not to
make the distinction between formality of language fo
f of William Bug
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Great reference, Alan!
I'd noticed a while back, a collection of folks who understand
the formal details, the entirety of the landscape, and
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I'd like to comment on these statements:
Perhaps it can be phrased better, but 'a
laymans terms what a formal ontology is about is a challenge.
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d that page and wrote good part of the
content. I'm passing him your kind comments.
Thanks
Davide
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the content. I'm passing him your kind comments.
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'd be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about "algorithms" has
come from. The other mistake, I think, is not to make
s
Subject: Re: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology
Great reference, Alan!
I'd noticed a while back, a collection of folks who understand the formal
details, the entirety of the landscape, and collectively have done a great job
documenting this info have worked on that page.
Cheers,
Bi
'd be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about
"algorithms" has come from. The other mistake, I think, is not to
make the distinction between formality of language for representaiton
and the formality of the ontology itself. The latter is, I think, a
matter of the distinctions m
How would you phrase it?
-Alan
On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
"Alan" == Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alan> Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology
Alan> -Alan
Well, it starts of with this
"A Formal ontology is an ontology modeled by
> "Alan" == Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alan> Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology
Alan> -Alan
Well, it starts of with this
"A Formal ontology is an ontology modeled by algorithms. Formal
ontologies are founded upon a specific Formal Upper Level On
Great reference, Alan!
I'd noticed a while back, a collection of folks who understand the
formal details, the entirety of the landscape, and collectively have
done a great job documenting this info have worked on that page.
Cheers,
Bill
On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology
-Alan
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