Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Michel Dumontier
Hi Carole, I participate in the data citation implementation group @ force11, along with Tim Clark and others in this community. https://www.force11.org/datacitationimplementation does a specific aspect come to mind? m. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Carole Goble wrote: > Hi all. > > At t

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Hi, I think hasVersion can be vague. In my case it has the specific meaning of "time-snapshot" from a "master" information resource. So I can have hasVersion and versionOf as inverse (not that I have committed to this and I may adopt a more relaxed vocabulary, but I could). Closed vs Open World: yo

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 22 September 2014 14:19, Andrea Splendiani wrote: > ok, so it seems our representations are pretty much aligned, except for the > "http://example.com"; I don't say anything but simply redirect to the current > versions. I think that's fine as long as it's not in conflict with say the HTML repr

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Hi, ok, so it seems our representations are pretty much aligned, except for the "http://example.com"; I don't say anything but simply redirect to the current versions. Each version page state things like "this is a version of http://example.com, previousVersion... and so on. Latest version is the o

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 22 September 2014 12:59, Andrea Splendiani wrote: > Ho, > a related question: > hasPreviousVersion: what does it have for domain/range ? > I would use this relations as a predicate on versions only. Leaving > relations among versions independent from the versioned object. Note that there is no

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
aphityhq.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Joachim Baran >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >> >>> >> >>> I would reorder the URI as "http://eample/V2/P1234";. That way you >> >>> make it >> >

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Andrea Splendiani
; I would reorder the URI as "http://eample/V2/P1234";. That way you > make it > >>> more explicit that you are talking about data set releases, each of > which is > >>> defined by its own URI prefix. That way you can have two P1234 residing > >>>

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
tely different. >>> >>> Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite >>> seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that you >>> gave. >>> >>> Kim >>> >>> On 19 September 2

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-22 Thread Carole Goble
Hi all. At the research data alliance meeting. The data citation wg lead by Andreas Rauber is all about dynamic Datasets. They have some pilots Michel- are you connected with that? Carole Sent from my iPhone by Professor Carole Goble The University of Manchester UK > On 21 Sep 2014, at 22:

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Andrea Splendiani
d reorder the URI as "http://eample/V2/P1234";. That way you make it >>>>> more explicit that you are talking about data set releases, each of which >>>>> is >>>>> defined by its own URI prefix. That way you can have two P1234 residing >>>>

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Michel Dumontier
V2/P1234";. That way you make it >>>> more explicit that you are talking about data set releases, each of which >>>> is >>>> defined by its own URI prefix. That way you can have two P1234 residing >>>> side-by-side even though they might be completel

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Andrea Splendiani
ix. That way you can have two P1234 residing >>> side-by-side even though they might be completely different. >>> >>> Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite >>> seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Michel Dumontier
tely different. >> >> Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite >> seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that you >> gave. >> >> Kim >> >> On 19 September 2014 08:38, Andrea Splendiani >>

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
ways be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite > seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that you > gave. > > Kim > > On 19 September 2014 08:38, Andrea Splendiani > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm posting here a questio

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Hi, I knows how nanopubs work. Let's say the closer thing I can find to what I need is git, just with a different id policy. best, Andrea Il giorno 21/set/2014, alle ore 22:00, Michel Dumontier ha scritto: > Hi Andrea, > The nanopublication schema is a general mechanism to associate some > pr

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Michel Dumontier
Hi Andrea, The nanopublication schema is a general mechanism to associate some provenance with one or more assertions, and to keep track of who put this information together in a convenient package. There's nothing that prevents you from sticking a whole ontology in the assertion graph, and then p

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Susanna Sansone
Thanks Kerstin, I am familiar with the CDISC RDF as we aim to reuse it in eTRIKS (where CDISC and we are a part of) and see how to best linked it to the LinkedISA work. This will also very much useful for the CEDAR centre. More off list to avoid spanning all. Thanks, Susanna On 21/09/2014 13:

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Kerstin Forsberg
Hi and Many Thanks Susanna for your email The coverage for CRL was metadata describing prospective clinical data standards, both public such as CDISC and internal such as raw data standards for a specific clinical project, as well as descriptions of retrospectiive datasets.The projejct was stopped

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Susanna Sansone
Hi Kerstin, /(sl//ightly diverging from the subject of this tread)/ I am not sure which data standards will you cover in the registry and wonder if there is a opportunity for collaboration. You may be familiar with http://www.biosharing.org/ where registering data/metadata reporting standards i

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Kerstin Forsberg
Hi Andrea, in an earlier attempt to design and launch a Metadata Registry for clinical trial data, called Clinical Reference Library1 ). To capture and manage descriptions of versions of clinical trial data standards, and of variants of actual clinical trial datasets, we applied the software patter

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-21 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Hi, I may re-use some bits of it, but overall I am dealing with quite a different thing. I don't have "publications", I have evolving information sets. Provenance/evidence and the like are there, but not so fine-grained (e.g.: I may have the whole ontology with the same provenance/evidence, not

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-20 Thread Mark Wilkinson
+1 On 19 September 2014 20:07:52 CEST, Michel Dumontier wrote: >Hi, > I suggest nanopublications to track versioning for assertions > http://www.nanopub.org/guidelines/ > >m. > >On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Joachim Baran > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On 19 September 2014 09:45, Andrea Splendiani >

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Michel Dumontier
Hi, I suggest nanopublications to track versioning for assertions http://www.nanopub.org/guidelines/ m. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Joachim Baran wrote: > Hi! > > On 19 September 2014 09:45, Andrea Splendiani > wrote: >> >> When a concept change meaning, it changes id ;) > > Aha! I thi

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Joachim Baran
Hi! On 19 September 2014 09:45, Andrea Splendiani wrote: > When a concept change meaning, it changes id ;) > Aha! I think it might not always change ID! ;) Best wishes, Kim

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Andrea Splendiani
residing side-by-side even though they might be completely different. >>> >>> Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- >>> despite seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs >>> that you gave. >>> >>

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Joachim Baran
gt;> >> Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite >> seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that >> you gave. >> >> Kim >> >> On 19 September 2014 08:38, Andrea Splendiani > > wrote: &g

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Andrea Splendiani
letely different. > > Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite > seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that > you gave. > > Kim > > On 19 September 2014 08:38, Andrea Splendiani > wrote: > >> Hi, >

Re: How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Joachim Baran
different. Should the version always be part of an URI? I would say yes -- despite seeing your argumentation about the temporal interpretation of URIs that you gave. Kim On 19 September 2014 08:38, Andrea Splendiani wrote: > Hi, > > I'm posting here a question I have posted in some ot

How do you go about versioning ?

2014-09-19 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Hi, I'm posting here a question I have posted in some other forums. How do you go about versioning ? I tend to think at the URI as pointing to the endurant, and this leaves to the "version" the meaning of "what was known/true about an entity at a given time". The latter