RE: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-05-02 Thread Vassil Peytchev
Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs Hi Thomas, Same digital signature means that - after cannonicalization - there are the same bytes. That's key. Indenting the XML changes the raw bytes, but doesn't change the bytes of the canonicalized form. On

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread Lloyd McKenzie
t Hausam ; > Grahame Grieve ; i...@lists.hl7.org; > w3c semweb HCLS > *Subject:* Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs > > > > Hi Thomas, > > > > Same digital signature means that - after cannonicalization - there are > the same bytes.

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread Solbrig, Harold R., M.S.
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RE: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread Paul A. Knapp
rieve ; i...@lists.hl7.org; w3c semweb HCLS Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs Hi Thomas, Same digital signature means that - after cannonicalization - there are the same bytes. That's key. Indenting the XML changes the raw bytes, but doesn't c

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread Lloyd McKenzie
different then it won't produce the > same digital signature. > > So I don't agree that those are different "definitions" of "the same > thing", or that the digital signature interpretation is "looser". > > TJL > > >

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread tlukasik
or that the digital signature interpretation is "looser". � TJL � ------------ Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs From: "David Booth" Date: Wed, April 27, 2016 9:48 am To

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread David Booth
ven looser then we would have to clearly define it and describe the problem that it is intended to solve. Such a definition could have some utility but I am doubtful that it would be enough to justify the work and the confusion that would be added by having one more notion of equivalence. David

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread Paul A. Knapp
--- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs From: "Lloyd McKenzie" Date: Tue, April 26, 2016 3:00 pm To: "Grahame Grieve" Cc: "David Booth" "i...@lists.hl7.org" "w3c semweb HCL

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread tlukasik
ense that they're equivalent (meaning that "they point to the same thing"), but it wouldn't be OK if they have to be "the same thing" in the stricter sense of not altering the digital signature. � � TJL � Origi

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread tlukasik
ute and relative URIs. � TJL � Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs From: "David Booth" Date: Tue, April 26, 2016 4:05 pm To: tluka...@exn

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-27 Thread tlukasik
discussed aspects of round tripping. � TJL � Original Message ------------ Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs From: "Lloyd McKenzie" Date: Tue, April 26, 2016 3:00 pm To: "G

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-26 Thread Robert Hausam
k that if we *were* doing that, we would have been aware of what > Lloyd pointed out, and have been able to answer our own question RE the > preservation of absolute and relative URIs. > > TJL > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Su

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-26 Thread David Booth
------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs From: "Lloyd McKenzie" Date: Tue, April 26, 2016 3:00 pm To: "Grahame Grieve" Cc: "David Booth" "i...@lists.hl7.org" &

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-26 Thread Lloyd McKenzie
If we want the RDF to be an equal sibling to xml and JSON then round tripping needs to be signature safe. At the moment, that means retaining absolute vs. relative references. On Tuesday, April 26, 2016, Grahame Grieve < grah...@healthintersections.com.au> wrote: > well, this is tricky. technica

Re: Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-26 Thread Grahame Grieve
well, this is tricky. technically, it's not strictly required, but it's a lossy transform (lossy in both ways, in fact). One of the attractions of fhir;reference for me is that you can have an absolute reference for RDF and preserve the original fhir url Grahame On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:01 AM,

Question on FHIR references - relative and absolute URIs

2016-04-26 Thread David Booth
Grahame and/or Lloyd, In today's FHIR RDF teleconference, a question came up about relative and absolute URIs in FHIR references. Must absolute and relative references be round tripped as is? I.e., do we need to maintain the distinction between relative and absolute references when round tr