Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-18 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
I've started a page on the wiki to record progress on working through the GO SQL queries that Chris documented. http://esw.w3.org/topic/GoSparqlQueries Nothing but the "what is the nuclear chromosome part of" query there yet, but let's work on doing the rest. -Alan

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-18 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Agreed, although it can get complicated quickly. For example, the part of relations go through is_a, (a part_of some b, b subclassOf c => a part_of some c) and there can be negations in the GO annotations. If you get into subproperties, some of which are transitive and some not it gets ev

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-18 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Here's my way of looking at this. The information from which the classrelations graph was derived was the original OWL. We'd like a world in which we can query the OWL, with reasoner support, but we don't have that yet. We will at some point. The most common way of doing inference in tri

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Chris Mungall
On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such as

RE: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Booth, David (HP Software - Boston)
FYI, this paper and talk from Jim Melton of Oracle may be of interest: http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/119 http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/0301-melton-query-langs.pdf In the paper he mentions: [[ SPARQL syntax makes virtually all join operations implicit, while SQL syntax usually makes th

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Chimezie Ogbuji
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 05:04 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: > > In my opinion SQL (with entailments pre-computed) still turns out > > to be a far superior choice to existing semantic web technology - > > I'd be interested to see the SPARQL equivalents of the following > > queries: > > http://w

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:04, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such as Sesa

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:04 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Get it as RDF Swine mail application. Get it as RDF => http://tinyurl.com/3yyepz -Alan