Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-23 Thread Steve Chervitz
Phillip Lord wrote: > > Matthew Cockerill wrote: >> I agree that the details of gene function probably don't belong on >> Wikipedia. >> >> >> >> It's at least conceivable that Wikipedia may play an important role >> in providing widely accepted identifiers for such high level classes >> and i

RE: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-09 Thread Phillip Lord
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In terms of preserving the bits: > > Just as, if you believe that the only way to preserve BioMed > Central's content is to scratch it in a shrinking spiral onto 2" > nickel disks (as recommended here > http://www.longnow.org/projects/conferences/10klibrary/ ), then > th

RE: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-09 Thread matt
> > It's at least conceivable that Wikipedia may play an important role > > in providing widely accepted identifiers for such high > level classes > > and instances, since the high level of usage of wikipedia would tend > > to keep those high level concepts far better maintained and curated >

RE: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-09 Thread Phillip Lord
Matthew Cockerill wrote: > I agree that the details of gene function probably don't belong on > Wikipedia. > > However, as these two recent articles > > > Are the current ontologies in biology good ontologies? > Larisa N Soldatova & Ross (Nature Biotechnology) > htttp://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nbt09

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Tom Stambaugh
> > [Snipped] > > It's at least conceivable that Wikipedia may play an important role in > providing widely accepted identifiers for such high level classes and > instances, since the high level of usage of wikipedia would tend to keep > those high level concepts far better maintained and

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Matthew Cockerill
I agree that the details of gene function probably don't belong on Wikipedia. However, as these two recent articles Are the current ontologies in biology good ontologies? Larisa N Soldatova & Ross (Nature Biotechnology) htttp://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nbt0905-1095 Time to Organize the Bioinform

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Eric Jain
Matthew Cockerill wrote: Again, important conceptual issues. But again, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We'll be doing some tests with some "hard core" users sometime this year, so we'll see to what extent they are willing to eat (or is it cook?) the pudding :-)

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Matthew Cockerill
The problem with expecting people to update the core data is that this can be quite difficult, at least for anything beyond fixing spelling errors. Let's say you are looking at the page for some protein you are familiar with, e.g. http://expasy.org/uniprot/ P00750. You notice that somethin

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Eric Jain
Matthew Cockerill wrote: Adding comments does not provide the same motivation as updating the core data. I guess it doesn't, though I think this would already be much better than a feedback form, as far as immediacy and motivation are concerned. The problem with expecting people to update t

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Tom Stambaugh
> You raise important issues on this. But I take the converse position, I > think: > [snipped] What he said ... and ... A more tightly focused Gene Function Wiki (or perhaps "interwiki"...) promises to provide specific benefits to the life science community for the same reason that the existen

Re: Nature: A call for a public gene Wiki

2006-02-08 Thread Matthew Cockerill
Eric, You raise important issues on this. But I take the converse position, I think: My sense is that: (a) wiki style maintenance will prove to be just as valuable for ontologies and semantically tagged information as it has proved to be for hypertext encyclopedia entry maintenance (