Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-07-24 Thread Kei Cheung
This may also be an interesting way of intersecting microarray (mageml) and semantic web (rdfa) ... -Kei Ivan Herman wrote: I am sorry if I come into this thread very late. Additionally to what Ralph just said, the RDFa distiller running on the W3C site: http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/

RE: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-07-24 Thread Miller, Michael D (Rosetta)
; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org Subject: Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information This may also be an interesting way of intersecting microarray (mageml) and semantic web (rdfa) ... -Kei Ivan Herman wrote: I am sorry if I come into this thread very late. Additionally to what

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-07-24 Thread Helen Parkinson
This is probably technically possible - but you'd need to process a lot of complex mage-ml to get out some quite simple information - there's a node-edge sample processing graph, plus all the external data files in there - mage-ml is mostly tags and the files are large. We've moved internally

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-07-22 Thread Ivan Herman
I am sorry if I come into this thread very late. Additionally to what Ralph just said, the RDFa distiller running on the W3C site: http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/ should actually work with an arbitrary XML file, although only SVG is 'announced' there (which is probably my mistake). If there is

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2009-06-24 Thread Rick Jelliffe
Thanks for everyone for their useful help yesterday. I am deferring the RDFa parts, and instead will concentrate on making page-level RDF descriptions that may be useful for data links for the outside world. (The HTML pages are now full of ids, hproduct microformats class, HTML rel, and

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote: I am working on improving the semweb markup on an Australian government Department of Health and Aging website, which has HTML and XML versions of the medicines allowed for prescription and the amount the government

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Matthias Samwald
Hi Rick, I think adding parts of RDFa into your XML without turning the whole XML into some kind of XHTML document will not help much. If you want to use RDFa and make your data part of the Semantic Web, why don't you add more RDFa to your current HTML pages? I see that they do not contain

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF? It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progresssigh (Like I said, it has different info from the HTML so adding RDFa to the HTML won't work; also the XML has existing

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote: So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF?  It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progresssigh Define 'markup'... you can just embed your

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/6/09 11:49, Rick Jelliffe wrote: So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF? It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progresssigh Well, since you didn't seem keen on converting all the XML to RDF I didn't point you

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
Dan Brickley wrote: On 23/6/09 11:49, Rick Jelliffe wrote: So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF? It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progresssigh Well, since you didn't seem keen on converting all the XML to

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote: So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF? It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progresssigh Define

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote: Markup = annotation.  Taking existing data and adding stuff to make it more useful, without disrupting existing uses of that data (and without creating the size/maintenance issues you get from duplication.) One of

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Matthias Samwald
Hi Rick, So there is still no convenient way to mark up existing XML as RDF? It was a showstopper 10 years ago but I kind of expected there would have been some progress I rather think that using XML as the default representation for RDF was the showstopper back then. RDF/XML is not a good

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
I see that the 2008 draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/rdfa-overview says RDFa itself is intended to be a technique that allows for adding metadata to any (XML) markup document, including SMIL, RSS, SVG, MathML, etc. Note, however, that in the current state, RDFa is being defined only

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote: I see that the 2008 draft  http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/rdfa-overview says  RDFa itself is intended to be a technique that allows for adding metadata to any (XML) markup document, including SMIL, RSS, SVG,

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
Egon Willighagen wrote: The problem here is to define what attributes your XML will use to define the RDFa hooks... what attributes will define a new subject, the predicate, and how you define the object... Yes, we lose the html:base element and html:link, but why would we lose the

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, A nice example of the traps of data linking. The data seems to say that Einstein was born in the Federal Republic of Germany. In fact, he was born before the FRG was founded. Take care Oliver On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Rick Jellifferjelli...@allette.com.au wrote:

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Jelliffe
Egon Willighagen wrote: Namespace... to solve this, you could do instead: my:book xhtml:about=urn:ISBN:0091808189 xhtml:typeof=biblio:book xhtml:property=dc:title Canteen Cuisine /my:book where the prefix xhtml would be bound to the namespace belonging to XHTML+RDFa...

Re: Can RDFa be used on XML: pharma information

2009-06-23 Thread Ralph R. Swick
At 10:48 PM 6/23/2009 +1000, Rick Jelliffe wrote: I see that the 2008 draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/rdfa-overview says RDFa itself is intended to be a technique that allows for adding metadata to any (XML) markup document, including SMIL, RSS, SVG, MathML, etc. Note, however,