Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-28 Thread Joachim Baran
Hi! On 28 August 2014 08:08, Michael Miller wrote: > i agree that it's hard to distinguish between 'clever and non-clever' > functions but not if you change the criteria to the distinction between > transforming and mapping functions upon the data themselves, here we have > a clear mapping func

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Miller
hcls; pav-ontol...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV I disagree. In my opinion it is subjective to use "import" when some unspecified functions are applied to the data that is being incorporated in a new dataset, but

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-27 Thread Joachim Baran
//tcga-data.nci.nih.gov/tcga/tcgaDownload.jsp and >> https://tcga-data.nci.nih.gov/ccg-data-web/searchForTCGAData.htm >> >> [3] >> http://gdac.broadinstitute.org/runs/stddata__2014_07_15/data/STAD/20140715/ >> and the file >> gdac.broadinstitute.org_STAD.Merge_mirn

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-27 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
ene_expression__data.Level_3.2014071500.0.0.tar.gz> > > > > > > *From:* st...@mygrid.org.uk [mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Stian > Soiland-Reyes > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM > *To:* Alasdair J G Gray > *Cc:* w3c semweb hcls; Joachim Baran;

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-25 Thread Gray, Alasdair J G
.@mygrid.org.uk<mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk> [mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk<mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk>] On Behalf Of Stian Soiland-Reyes Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM To: Alasdair J G Gray Cc: w3c semweb hcls; Joachim Baran; Michael Miller Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comme

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-21 Thread Michael Miller
.@mygrid.org.uk [mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Stian Soiland-Reyes *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM *To:* Alasdair J G Gray *Cc:* w3c semweb hcls; Joachim Baran; Michael Miller *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV Hi, sorry for not re

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-20 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
gt; > but this has lead me to ask the question of what is the relation of Dataset > Descriptions and PROV and how should they/should they be used together? i > think the above use case is quite common for datasets being published so > might deserve a discussion in the Dataset Descriptions note >

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-20 Thread Michel Dumontier
gineer > > Institute for Systems Biology > > > > > > From: Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:00 AM > To: Michael Miller > > > Cc: Stian Soiland-Reyes; w3c semweb hcls > Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comm

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-20 Thread Michael Miller
*Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV Great! Before you send the pull request, please make sure that W3C's HTML validation passes: http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input Kim On 9 August 2014 10:15, Michael Miller wrote: hi kim, i&#x

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-11 Thread Michael Miller
PROV. cheers, michael Michael Miller Software Engineer Institute for Systems Biology *From:* Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 8:00 AM *To:* Michael Miller *Cc:* Stian Soiland-Reyes; w3c semweb hcls *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description com

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-11 Thread Joachim Baran
; > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:46 PM > > To: Michael Miller > > Cc: Stian Soiland-Reyes; w3c semweb hcls > > Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. > > PROV > > > > Hello, > > > > Has there been an update to

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-11 Thread Gray, Alasdair J G
published so might deserve a discussion in the Dataset Descriptions note cheers, michael Michael Miller Software Engineer Institute for Systems Biology From: Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:43 PM To: Michael Miller Cc: w3c semweb hcls Subjec

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-09 Thread Michael Miller
achim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:46 PM > To: Michael Miller > Cc: Stian Soiland-Reyes; w3c semweb hcls > Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. > PROV > > Hello, > > Has there been an update to this? Preferab

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-08 Thread Joachim Baran
neer > Institute for Systems Biology > > >> -Original Message- >> From: st...@mygrid.org.uk [mailto:st...@mygrid.org.uk] On Behalf Of Stian >> Soiland-Reyes >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 5:38 AM >> To: Michael Miller >> Cc: Joachim Baran; w3c semwe

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-05 Thread Michael Miller
gt; To: Michael Miller > Cc: Joachim Baran; w3c semweb hcls > Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. > PROV > > Just some inputs: > > > PROV defines prov:wasDerivedFrom which in broad sense describes such a > relationset between datasets. How

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-05 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
e a discussion in the Dataset Descriptions note > > > > cheers, > > michael > > > > Michael Miller > > Software Engineer > > Institute for Systems Biology > > > > > > From: Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, J

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Melissa Haendel
oftware Engineer Institute for Systems Biology -Original Message- From: Michel Dumontier [mailto:michel.dumont...@gmail.com<http://gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:14 AM To: Joachim Baran Cc: Michael Miller; w3c semweb hcls Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Miller
gt; To: Joachim Baran > Cc: Michael Miller; w3c semweb hcls > Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. > PROV > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Joachim Baran > wrote: > > Having said that, our note apparently is not clear on that particular

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Michel Dumontier
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Joachim Baran wrote: > Having said that, our note apparently is not clear on that particular > aspect. We will see what we can do about this. We would welcome some prose from you and Melissa so that it communicates what you feel is necessary for other potential us

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Joachim Baran
n > by the groups themselves? if i have permission, i can certainly add them as > issues. > > cheers, > michael > > Michael Miller > Software Engineer > Institute for Systems Biology > > > From: Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > Sent

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Miller
el Michael Miller Software Engineer Institute for Systems Biology *From:* Melissa Haendel [mailto:haen...@ohsu.edu] *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 9:56 AM *To:* Michael Miller *Cc:* Joachim Baran; w3c semweb hcls *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs

Re: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Melissa Haendel
To: Michael Miller Cc: w3c semweb hcls Subject: Re: hcls dataset description comments Hi! I will ponder about your edit suggestion of your first bullet point. I am not sure at the moment if it would have wider implications. You are right that the use cases were written by the groups themse

RE: hcls dataset description comments--Dataset Descriptions vs. PROV

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Miller
cheers, michael Michael Miller Software Engineer Institute for Systems Biology *From:* Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:43 PM *To:* Michael Miller *Cc:* w3c semweb hcls *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments Hi! I w

Re: hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-31 Thread Joachim Baran
ology > > > > > > *From:* Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:56 AM > > *To:* Michael Miller > *Cc:* w3c semweb hcls > *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments > > > > Hi! > > > > Than

RE: hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-30 Thread Michael Miller
ichael Miller *Cc:* w3c semweb hcls *Subject:* Re: hcls dataset description comments Hi! Thanks for the suggestions. I have incorporated your minor edits. Unbelievable how those slipped through after so many re-readings still. For other edits, please fork the repository and crea

Re: hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-29 Thread Joachim Baran
ions > > · s8.8.1: '... what period it is updated. To know when to...' > should be '...what period it is updated to know when to...'? > > > > *From:* Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:43 PM > *To

RE: hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Miller
there are two s6.2.3 sections · s8.8.1: '... what period it is updated. To know when to...' should be '...what period it is updated to know when to...'? *From:* Joachim Baran [mailto:joachim.ba...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:43 PM *To:* Michae

Re: hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-22 Thread Joachim Baran
Hello, I believe you were looking at an old document. There is currently only one Figure in the note. Please check the actual draft at: http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/joejimbo/HCLSDatasetDescriptions/blob/master/Overview.html Best wishes, Kim On 22 July 2014 15:36, Mich

hcls dataset description comments

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Miller
hi all, tremendous work, very clear and well-written. my group at ISB, the Shmulevich lab is looking to provide provenance for the analysis datasets we are producing for TCGA. we're not sure if we'll be able to 'go all the way' but we want to make sure we have at hand all the information that