Re: [widgets] Device Specific APIs and Services

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:32 PM, timeless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marcos Caceres > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> APIs are identified as resources via URIs. For >> example: >> >> >> >>> src="http://g

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal version 3

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: Under the current spec the operator must check each individual PHP script in the part of the site that is shared to make sure that none of them use $_SESSION, $_COOKIE, $HTTP_SESSION_VARS, $_ENV['HTTP_COOKIE'], HttpRequest::getCookies

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal version 3

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: Under the current spec the operator must check each individual PHP script in the part of the site that is shared to make sure that none of them use $_SESSION, $_COOKIE, $HTTP_SESSION_VARS, $_ENV['HTTP_COOKIE'], HttpRequest::getCookies

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal version 3

2008-06-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: > > Under the current spec the operator must check each individual PHP > script in the part of the site that is shared to make sure that none of > them use $_SESSION, $_COOKIE, $HTTP_SESSION_VARS, $_ENV['HTTP_COOKIE'], > HttpRequest::getCookies(), any of

Re: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier feedback from MS]

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Sunava Dutta wrote: Hey Jonas, rather than seem to disappear I wanted to set expectations. (We're not ignoring you and don't want to come off like that) Zhenbin and I have been busy so far on XHR and a few other issues. We'll be starting replying to this Monday next week. Sounds good. Btw

RE: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier feedback from MS]

2008-06-20 Thread Sunava Dutta
Hey Jonas, rather than seem to disappear I wanted to set expectations. (We're not ignoring you and don't want to come off like that) Zhenbin and I have been busy so far on XHR and a few other issues. We'll be starting replying to this Monday next week. Btw, thanks for the statement: "> Looking

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Sunava Dutta
Adding the editor to take the next steps. Thanks, > -Original Message- > From: Zhenbin Xu > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Jonas Sicking > Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX > SWAT Team > Subject: RE: RE: Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potent

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Zhenbin Xu
> -Original Message- > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:32 PM > To: Zhenbin Xu > Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX > SWAT Team > Subject: Re: RE: Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in X

Re: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Zhenbin Xu wrote: -Original Message- From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:05 PM To: Zhenbin Xu Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX SWAT Team Subject: Re: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite Zhe

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Sunava Dutta
Thanks. I think we will consider the tracker for future threads and also use the F2F. Meanwhile, Zhenbin has answered Jonas. > -Original Message- > From: Doug Schepers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:57 PM > To: Sunava Dutta > Cc: Jonas Sicking; Zhenbin Xu; Ian

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Zhenbin Xu
> -Original Message- > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:05 PM > To: Zhenbin Xu > Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX > SWAT Team > Subject: Re: RE: Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in

Re: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Zhenbin Xu wrote: -Original Message- From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: Zhenbin Xu Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX SWAT Team Subject: Re: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite Zhe

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Zhenbin Xu
> -Original Message- > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:19 PM > To: Zhenbin Xu > Cc: Sunava Dutta; Ian Hickson; public-webapps@w3.org; IE8 Core AJAX > SWAT Team > Subject: Re: RE: Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in

Re: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Zhenbin Xu wrote: Jonas, I don't feel you have summarized our position properly. We said it should be exception but we are willing to accommodate other implementations for the spec to have a leeway there and avoiding protracted discussions. I assume you mean by the "null or exception" proposa

RE: XHR2 Feedback As Tracker Issues (was: [NOT] Microsoft's feedback on XHR2)

2008-06-20 Thread Chris Wilson
As a general rule, I'm in favor of that - or at least some way of forking the discussions and only requiring individuals to be involved in what they're interested/expert in. -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:06 PM To: Sunav

RE: RE: RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC Test Suite

2008-06-20 Thread Zhenbin Xu
Jonas, I don't feel you have summarized our position properly. We said it should be exception but we are willing to accommodate other implementations for the spec to have a leeway there and avoiding protracted discussions. We have absolutely no problem for the spec to clearly state that except

Re: IRC logging

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Can anyone really ever mention things that are member confidential on IRC? We have no control over who else is in the room and possibly logging. / Jonas Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi Anne, this raises a couple of issues - the obvious one being how we deal with meetings which include in

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal version 3

2008-06-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote: That is, your solution only works so long as the site doesn't ever opt in to cookies. Which seems uncommon. This is not true. You can opt in to cookies on just a subset of the URIs where you opt in to Access-Control with my proposal.

Re: IRC logging

2008-06-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi Anne, this raises a couple of issues - the obvious one being how we deal with meetings which include information that is member-only, and also whether the logger has some facility for saying something that doesn't go into the record, as the W3C log bots do. Hopefully we will clear thi

Re: ISSUE-7 (Transfer Old Issues): Transferring old WebAPI and WAF [All Products]

2008-06-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
All, On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:10 PM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:45:04 +0900, Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ISSUE-7 (Transfer Old Issues): Transferring old WebAPI and WAF [All Products] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/tr

Re: [widgets] Device Specific APIs and Services

2008-06-20 Thread timeless
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > APIs are identified as resources via URIs. For > example: > > > > src="http://gps.w3.org/api.jar"; This worries me. see clsid: and the problems of activex for

Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:25:04 +0200, timeless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Arve Bersvendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The security policy proposed by Opera (and mostly implemented already) allows you to XHR any content stored within the package archive itself,

Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread timeless
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Arve Bersvendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The security policy proposed by Opera (and mostly implemented already) > allows you to XHR any content stored within the package archive itself, just > as it would allow you to include the contents of a package through

[widgets] Device Specific APIs and Services

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi, What follows is an *extremely rough* strawman proposal to address "R30. Device Specific APIs and Services", of the widget requirements document. This proposal is intended for discussion and is deliberately thin on technical details. Requirement 30 of the Widgets requirements document is as fo

Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:11:42 +0200, Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To which Timeless replied... Yes, that is possible (using XHR to load the config from within the package), but then you have to walk an

Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To which Timeless replied... > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: timeless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC > To: Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROT

[Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
To which Timeless replied... -- Forwarded message -- From: timeless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC To: Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (you didn't reply to the list) On 6/18/08, Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
I accidentally sent this discussion to Timeless without including the list -- Forwarded message -- From: Marcos Caceres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:02 PM, timel