[widgets] Zip vs GZip Tar

2010-04-28 Thread Gregg Tavares
I'm sorry if I'm not familiar with all the details of how the widgets spec is going but the specs encourage comment so I'm commenting :-) It seems like widgets have 2 uses #1) As a way to package an HTML5 app that can be downloaded similar to a native executable #2) As a way to package an HT

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Darin Fisher
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Darin Fisher > wrote: > >> >> It would be nice to be able to allow streaming such th

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
Ugh, sent this originally to just Darin. Resending to the list. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >>

Re: Client side JavaScript i18n API

2010-04-28 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: > Hi, > > On Apr 26, 2010, at 20:49 , Nebojša Ćirić wrote: >> We have a first draft at >> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dhttrq5v_0c8k5vkdh (it has view/edit >> permissions). > > That's interesting; personally I agree that this would be very usef

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Michael Nordman
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > Ugh, sent this originally to just Darin. Resending to the list. > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Darin Fisher >

Re: Client side JavaScript i18n API

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Davis ☕
Referring to the process: Trying to get effective and useful internationalization supported in ECMAScript has been a fruitless process (see Markus's memo of some seven or eight years ago). It might be possible to get needed changes if one were to spend enough (a huge amount of) time with the ECMA

RE: Client side JavaScript i18n API

2010-04-28 Thread Phillips, Addison
I agree (and am empowered by the I18N WG to say so). I don’t think we need to saddle the I18N efforts with the TC39 process but rather that what we do be compatible and consistent with internationalization changes in ES6.0 that TC39 eventually really *MUST* take up---that we push forward with th

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Darin Fisher
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Michael Nordman wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> Ugh, sent this originally to just Darin. Resending to the list. >> >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Darin Fisher >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jonas Si

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Michael Nordman > wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >>> >>> Ugh, sent this originally to just Darin. Resending to the list. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Darin Fis

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Eric Uhrhane
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Michael Nordman > wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >>> >>> Ugh, sent this originally to just Darin. Resending to the list. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dar

Re: [widgets] Zip vs GZip Tar

2010-04-28 Thread timeless
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gregg Tavares wrote: > I'm sorry if I'm not familiar with all the details of how the widgets spec > is going but the specs encourage comment so I'm commenting :-) > > It seems like widgets have 2 uses > > #1) As a way to package an HTML5 app that can be downloaded

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Dumitru Daniliuc
shawn, did you have a chance to give this some thought? how would mozilla like to handle cases like the ones jeremy and robin mentioned? how would you like to manage quotas? thanks, dumi On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Shawn Wilsher wrote: > On 4/23/2010 7:39 AM, Nikunj Mehta wrote: > >> Co

Re: [widgets] Zip vs GZip Tar

2010-04-28 Thread Gregg Tavares
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM, timeless wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gregg Tavares wrote: > > I'm sorry if I'm not familiar with all the details of how the widgets > spec > > is going but the specs encourage comment so I'm commenting :-) > > > > It seems like widgets have 2 uses >

Re: [widgets] Zip vs GZip Tar

2010-04-28 Thread Gregg Tavares
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM, timeless wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gregg Tavares wrote: > > I'm sorry if I'm not familiar with all the details of how the widgets > spec > > is going but the specs encourage comment so I'm commenting :-) > > > > It seems like widgets have 2 uses >

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 4/28/2010 2:54 PM, Dumitru Daniliuc wrote: shawn, did you have a chance to give this some thought? how would mozilla like to handle cases like the ones jeremy and robin mentioned? how would you like to manage quotas? We chatted yesterday, but I haven't had a chance to get it down into writing

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
We had some discussions about this at mozilla yesterday. I think the summary is something like this: * We'd like to expire data in IndexDB after some time. This will likely be based on heuristics, such as haven't visited the site for an extended period of time, though possibly keep the data a bit

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Michael Nordman
This thinking resonates with what we've been thinking too (I think). On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > We had some discussions about this at mozilla yesterday. I think the > summary is something like this: > > * We'd like to expire data in IndexDB after some time. This will

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Eric Uhrhane
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > We had some discussions about this at mozilla yesterday. I think the > summary is something like this: > > * We'd like to expire data in IndexDB after some time. This will > likely be based on heuristics, such as haven't visited the site for

Re: [widgets] Zip vs GZip Tar

2010-04-28 Thread timeless
cool. thankfully the way the standards stuff works, it's too late to change any of this. e.g. the standards group has already selected a signing mechanism to which mozilla objects, but it can't be changed. similarly, zip can't be replaced in widgets. people are free to write replacement standard

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Michael Nordman wrote: > This thinking resonates with what we've been thinking too (I think). > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> We had some discussions about this at mozilla yesterday. I think the >> summary is something like this: >>

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Eric Uhrhane wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> We had some discussions about this at mozilla yesterday. I think the >> summary is something like this: >> >> * We'd like to expire data in IndexDB after some time. This will >> likely

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Robert O'Callahan
We probably want to have different policies for different kinds of devices. For mobile, pruning unused storage is definitely important, but for modern desktops with >1TB drives most users probably won't ever need to "free up disk space" unless they're hit with some kind of denial-of-service attack,

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Michael Nordman wrote: >> We have in mind that the incentives for developers to not always utilize the >> most permanent storage option are... >> 1) Non-permanent storage is accessible w/o explicit user opt-i

Re: [FileAPI] Blob.URN?

2010-04-28 Thread Eric Uhrhane
I've been going through this thread trying to figure out how to make FileWriter [1] work cleanly for the various use cases presented, and I think the reason I've been having so much trouble is that it's just a bad idea to do so. Its original design constraints rule out some of the use cases. I th

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Simon Pieters wrote: > > > > Fine, fine. I've updated HTML5 to rename WebSocket.URL, > > EventSource.URL, and Stream.URL to be lowercase. > > Can you change it back? We've implemented and written tests for > WebSocket.URL. WebKit has implemented EventSource.URL and WebSocke

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Simon Pieters wrote: >> > >> > Fine, fine. I've updated HTML5 to rename WebSocket.URL, >> > EventSource.URL, and Stream.URL to be lowercase. >> >> Can you change it back? We've implemented and written tests for >> WebSocket

Re: XMLHttpRequest.responseBlob

2010-04-28 Thread Simon Pieters
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:27:44 +0200, Jonas Sicking wrote: Can you change it back? We've implemented and written tests for WebSocket.URL. WebKit has implemented EventSource.URL and WebSocket.URL. Do you plan to implement the File API attribute as .URL also? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publ