Re: Obsolescence notices on old specifications, again

2012-01-25 Thread Bronislav Klučka
Hello, since when is obsolete the same as work in progress? How does HTML4 (can be considered obsolete) the same as HTML5(in progress)? It only means that new features are added to HTML5 not to HTML 4 and any error in HTML 4 is ignored... This discussion is about using word obsolete in simple

Re: Obsolescence notices on old specifications, again

2012-01-25 Thread Bronislav Klučka
Hello Just to be perfectly clear here... I do not think we should phrase document statuses according to some external needs, because in this case we may end up with phrasing fitting Glenns needs, but it may not be fitting other legislatures or other companies internal needs and then what?

Re: [indexeddb] Do we need to support keyPaths with an empty string?

2012-01-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:46 AM Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: On Friday, January 20, 2012 2:31 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012

Re: Obsolescence notices on old specifications, again

2012-01-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All - I just chatted with Ms2ger in IRC about his proposal [1]. Ms2ger will submit proposed text to the list so we should probably hold off on additional comments until we get that proposal. (I agree rescinding is not what we want to do for these specs.) -AB [1]

Re: [Bug 15434] New: [IndexedDB] Detail steps for assigning a key to a value

2012-01-25 Thread Joshua Bell
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Joshua Bell jsb...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: What happens if a value higher up in the keyPath is not an object: store =

Re: [Bug 15434] New: [IndexedDB] Detail steps for assigning a key to a value

2012-01-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Joshua Bell jsb...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Joshua Bell jsb...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote:

[IndexedDB] Key generation details

2012-01-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi All, Joshua reminded me of another thing which is undefined in the specification, which is key generation. Here's the details of how we do it in Firefox: The key generator for each objectStore starts at 1 and is increased by 1 every time a new key is generated. Each objectStore has its own

RE: [indexeddb] Do we need to support keyPaths with an empty string?

2012-01-25 Thread Israel Hilerio
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:47 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:46 AM Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: On

RE: [IndexedDB] Key generation details

2012-01-25 Thread Israel Hilerio
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:25 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Hi All, Joshua reminded me of another thing which is undefined in the specification, which is key generation. Here's the details of how we do it in Firefox: The key generator for each objectStore starts at 1 and is increased by

[indexeddb] Creating transactions inside the oncomplete handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction

2012-01-25 Thread Israel Hilerio
Should we allow the creation of READ_ONLY or READ_WRITE transactions inside the oncomplete event handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction? IE allows this behavior today. However, we noticed that FF's nightly doesn't. In either case, we should define this behavior in the spec. Israel

[Bug 15717] New: Adding TransactionInactiveError to IDBObjectStore.count and IDBIndex.count

2012-01-25 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15717 Summary: Adding TransactionInactiveError to IDBObjectStore.count and IDBIndex.count Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status:

[Bug 15719] New: Under section Disk Space, there seems to be a word missing in the sentence (see part in parens): User agents should guard against sites storing data (under the origins other affi

2012-01-25 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15719 Summary: Under section Disk Space, there seems to be a word missing in the sentence (see part in parens): User agents should guard against sites storing data (under the

Re: [indexeddb] Creating transactions inside the oncomplete handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction

2012-01-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: Should we allow the creation of READ_ONLY or READ_WRITE transactions inside the oncomplete event handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction? IE allows this behavior today.  However, we noticed that FF's nightly doesn't.

Re: [IndexedDB] Key generation details

2012-01-25 Thread Joshua Bell
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.comwrote: On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:25 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Hi All, Joshua reminded me of another thing which is undefined in the specification, which is key generation. Here's the details of how we do it in

[Bug 15721] New: [IndexedDB] Specify when calling transaction() should throw due to being called too early

2012-01-25 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15721 Summary: [IndexedDB] Specify when calling transaction() should throw due to being called too early Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: PC OS/Version: All

RE: [indexeddb] Creating transactions inside the oncomplete handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction

2012-01-25 Thread Israel Hilerio
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: Should we allow the creation of READ_ONLY or READ_WRITE transactions inside the oncomplete event handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction? IE allows this

Re: [indexeddb] Creating transactions inside the oncomplete handler of a VERSION_CHANGE transaction

2012-01-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: Should we allow the creation of READ_ONLY or READ_WRITE transactions inside