Re: [IndexedDB] Checked in fix for ReSpec issue

2012-05-03 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 13:46:27 -0700, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I certainly agree that it would be better to move the definition of when to throw exceptions into the prose for each function and attribute, but

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-03 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: I would think that disabling cut/copy/paste would apply to main menus too, not just context menus.  Most people I know who use menus for this (which is precious few, btw, for the most part people I know seem to use keyboard

Re: [editing] input event should have a data property WAS: [D3E] Where did textInput go?

2012-05-03 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: As I've said before, I don't think command/value should be restricted to contentEditable beforeInput/input events. I don't see any downside to making command, value and text all available for all three cases. It simplifies

Re: [IndexedDB] Checked in fix for ReSpec issue

2012-05-03 Thread Simon Pieters
On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:56:49 +0200, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 13:46:27 -0700, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I certainly agree that it would be better to move the definition of

[IndexedDB] Bug 14404: What happens when a versionchange transaction is aborted?

2012-05-03 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi All, The issue of bug 14404 came up at the WebApps face-to-face today. I believe it's now the only remaining non-editorial bug. Since we've tried to fix this bug a couple of times in the spec already, but it still remains confusing/ambigious, I wanted to re-iterate what I believe we had

Re: [IndexedDB] Checked in fix for ReSpec issue

2012-05-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 3 May 2012 at 09:00, Simon Pieters wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:56:49 +0200, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc (mailto:jo...@sicking.cc) wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com (mailto:ann...@opera.com) wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-03 Thread Hallvord R. M. Steen
Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu skreiv Wed, 02 May 2012 20:10:24 +0200 With my used-to-maintain-a-rich-text-component hat on, I would have preferred a property to an event as an author. Ah, nice. In that case, my vote is certainly for a mechanism like that! I suggest spec'ing something like

Re: [IndexedDB] Checked in fix for ReSpec issue

2012-05-03 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 03 May 2012 01:34:12 -0700, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: I strongly agree, but this is not Respec's fault. It's just a particular(ly bad) editorial style adopted by some people. There is nothing in Respec that prevents an editor from defining the algorithms properly and

Re: GamepadObserver (ie. MutationObserver + Gamepad)

2012-05-03 Thread Rick Waldron
snip Weird, because you posted this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1atsxnstVybfovkX_f6xf2P25i1NT0ilCihJuPDwYWEU/edit?hl=en_US here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604039#c40 Just to be clear, I'm not trying to be aggressive or confrontational, but I just reread my message

Re: Offline Web Applications status

2012-05-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Michael Nordman wrote: 1. Allow cross-origin HTTPS resources to be included in manifest files. This much is actually done already in chromium impl as described on the whatwg list. I believe this is now done. 2. Allow a syntax to associate a page with an application

[admin] A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements

2012-05-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
Editors, All, During WebApps' May 2 Testing topic [1], I mentioned the A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements document [2] by Dom and Marcos. It describes a method for writing, marking-up, and analyzing conformance requirements in technical specifications that could

Re: [admin] A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements

2012-05-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 3 May 2012 at 19:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: Editors, All, During WebApps' May 2 Testing topic [1], I mentioned the A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements document [2] by Dom and Marcos. It describes a method for writing, marking-up, and analyzing

RE: [admin] A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements

2012-05-03 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Marcos, I think it would be great to update the document. While in the Webapps F2F there were some good ideas also floated on supplemental metadata systems (e.g. as used in WHATWG for HTML5) that don't require editors to do anything, IMO we should also consider tooling that helps editors add

Re: [IndexedDB] Bug 14404: What happens when a versionchange transaction is aborted?

2012-05-03 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hi All, The issue of bug 14404 came up at the WebApps face-to-face today. I believe it's now the only remaining non-editorial bug. Since we've tried to fix this bug a couple of times in the spec already, but it still

Re: GamepadObserver (ie. MutationObserver + Gamepad)

2012-05-03 Thread Scott Graham
say the single event gamepagechanged, where the event object has a property describing the complete state of the gamepad That seems fine to me. One caveat is that XInput on Windows (for example) is a polling-only API anyway, so it might not be reasonable to expect better data in the event,

Re: [IndexedDB] Bug 14404: What happens when a versionchange transaction is aborted?

2012-05-03 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
This is how I've understood it as well, and I'm very OK with it :) Getting it clear in like that would be a win. -- Sent from my N9, excuse the top posting On 03.05.12 01:32 Jonas Sicking wrote: Hi All, The issue of bug 14404 came up at the WebApps face-to-face today. I believe it's now

Re: [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 1 May 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: However I think that's only a realistic option if the HTML editor is willing to add such a parser mode to the HTML spec. The HTML editor isn't a relevant concern here. If a spec editor won't get out of the way and spec what the implementors want to

Re: GamepadObserver (ie. MutationObserver + Gamepad)

2012-05-03 Thread Glenn Maynard
Here are some piecemeal thoughts on the subject of gamepads and the gamepad spec. I havn't closely followed earlier discussions (and there don't seem to have been any in a while), so much of this may have been covered before. - It should be possible to tell what's changed, not just the current

Re: [webcomponents] Custom Elements Spec

2012-05-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 1 May 2012, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Custom tags vs. is attribute - is attribute is awkward, overly verbose - custom tags introduce local semantics - perhaps start with something as simple as reserving x- prefix on HTML tags for local semantics. Whether it's x-colour-picker