[Bug 24872] [Shadow]: Consider adding back at least :first-of-type to valid matching criteria

2014-03-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24872 Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 24872] [Shadow]: Consider adding back at least :first-of-type to valid matching criteria

2014-03-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24872 Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Nottingham
FWIW, we also have “Server Push” in HTTP/2; that seems confusable as well… On 11 Mar 2014, at 7:36 pm, Michael van Ouwerkerk mvanouwerk...@google.com wrote: I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would like to avoid confusing concepts and terminology in the Push API

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I agree, Push Message is the term that is used in other standards e.g. OMA Push. The use of the term notification was a reflection of the current simplified API design which provides only a trigger to the application, as a notification that some data is available at the server. As we consider

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, we will look out for additional potentially confusing term overlap as suggested. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Michael van Ouwerkerk mvanouwerk...@google.commailto:mvanouwerk...@google.com wrote: I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, but this is only a reflection of the semantic space of the English language. Many things can be source of confusion. Understanding context is the responsibility of the reader. We will do what we can to provide clarifying guidance on the use of terms, but Push Message is a well-established

[push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Bryan, Eduardo, All, While working through the push notification versus push message thread, I noticed Push API directly refers to System Messages as defined by SysApps' [runtime] spec. Based on the Note at the top of [runtime], it appears work on that spec has stopped. As such, what is

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
One of the other changes in progress is to include service workers on the design of the API. I don't know if that replaces system messages in total but the necessary changes will be considered when a new draft is submitted. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Arthur Barstow

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Michael van Ouwerkerk
In Blink/Chrome we are looking into the Push API. We intend to use Service Workers as an alternative for System Messages. The idea is to fire an event in the SW when a push message is received. This has a big advantage: waking up a SW should be much faster than loading the whole document.

Re: Browser search API

2014-03-13 Thread Marcos Caceres
On March 12, 2014 at 7:16:53 PM, Mitar (mmi...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi! There was no reply. :-( It usually takes a bit of time for Hixie to get around to all the emails (the volume of email on the WHATWG list + other priorities slow things down - but I’ve never seen him not respond to a

Re: Browser search API

2014-03-13 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On March 12, 2014 at 7:16:53 PM, Mitar (mmi...@gmail.com) wrote: There was no reply. :-( It usually takes a bit of time for Hixie to get around to all the emails (the volume of email on the WHATWG list + other priorities

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, at 22:45, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: One of the other changes in progress is to include service workers on the design of the API. I don't know if that replaces system messages in total but the necessary changes will be considered when a new draft is submitted. System

Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-13 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 20:12, Bruno Racineux wrote: Unless I am missing, something my current issue with screen.orientation is that it does not actually specify which is the natural orientation right away, UNLESS the device is rotated once. Is this really by design? Ref. again:

[screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-13 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Hi, I would like to change the Screen Orientation API to make the locking steps a bit simpler. Currently, the API tries to be flexible and allow locking to any combination of values like portrait, landscape, portrait-primary but also [ portrait, landscape-primary ], [ portrait-primary,

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 3/13/14 1:52 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: System Messages are definitely abandoned, I do not think any specification should use them. Even in SysApps, we started working on something called Event Pages (similar to what Chrome Apps does) before Service Worker took off. Given this, seems

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Marcos Caceres
On March 13, 2014 at 2:33:08 PM, Arthur Barstow (art.bars...@nokia.com) wrote: On 3/13/14 1:52 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: System Messages are definitely abandoned, I do not think any specification should use them. Even in SysApps, we started working on something called Event Pages

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-13 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
I am cc'ing Wonsuk and Christophe as Tizen is currently implementing (and shipping?) the API as well; it's even unprefixed. We are also supporting the current API in Crosswalk, but I am OK with the change as most of our current users are using Android which doesn't allow these specific locks.

Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-13 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 3/13/14 10:59 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn433241(v=vs.85).aspx That seems to defeat the normal orientation aspect of the spec and the usefulness of '-primary' and '-secondary' suffixes for the initial state. There is a bug on

[Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-13 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Hi, It appears that there is a lot of new features such as CSS regions and shadow DOM that have significant implications on selection API, and we really need a spec. for selection API these specifications can refer to. Thankfully, Aryeh has done a great work writing the spec. for selection API

RE: [Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-13 Thread Domenic Denicola
From: Ryosuke Niwa [mailto:rn...@apple.com] Any thoughts and opinions? Have there been indications from vendors that they would have more resources to devote to implementing or critiquing the selection API if it were isolated into a smaller document? Is the idea that the surrounding text

Re: [Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-13 Thread Kenji Baheux
Looking into selection in this brave new world (Shadow DOM for sure, but there are issues as well with flexbox if I'm not mistaken), is definitely something we are interested in. We haven't gotten around it yet which I believe explain our lack of feedback so far. 2014-03-14 8:43 GMT+09:00

Re: [Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-13 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Domenic Denicola dome...@domenicdenicola.com wrote: From: Ryosuke Niwa [mailto:rn...@apple.com] Any thoughts and opinions? Have there been indications from vendors that they would have more resources to devote to implementing or critiquing the selection API

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-13 Thread Jonas Sicking
I'd be fine with changing the API to only take a single string value. I agree the usecases for locking to multiple orientations isn't strong enough to warrant the compatibility complexities that come from the fact that you can't implement the API on android. At least I haven't heard such usecases.