The futile war between Native and Web

2015-02-15 Thread Anders Rundgren
In theory browsers can support any kind of platform-related function, right? In practice this has proved to be wrong although the reasons vary from lack of standards for the platform feature to support, to security and trust-models models involving other parties than the user and the site conne

Re: The futile war between Native and Web

2015-02-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
> In practice this has proved to be wrong although the reasons vary from lack > of standards for > the platform feature to support, I find there are two problems with browser based apps. First is the security model, and second is anemic security opportunities. For the first point, Pinning with Ov

[Bug 28031] New: Does the destination insertion points include Shadow IP without older trees?

2015-02-15 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28031 Bug ID: 28031 Summary: Does the destination insertion points include Shadow IP without older trees? Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: All

[Bug 28031] Does the destination insertion points include Shadow IP without older trees?

2015-02-15 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28031 Hayato Ito changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

Re: Base Template (Was Re: Minimum viable custom elements)

2015-02-15 Thread Hayato Ito
Jan, As for the following, in https://github.com/JanMiksovsky/base-template), > A web component spec bug tried to resolve this question by fixing the platform, but an initial Blink implementation

Re: The futile war between Native and Web

2015-02-15 Thread Florian Bösch
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > For the second point, and as a security architect, I regularly reject > browser-based apps that operate on medium and high value data because > we can't place the security controls needed to handle the data. The > browser based apps are fi

Re: The futile war between Native and Web

2015-02-15 Thread Anders Rundgren
On 2015-02-16 07:48, Florian Bösch wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton mailto:noloa...@gmail.com>> wrote: For the second point, and as a security architect, I regularly reject browser-based apps that operate on medium and high value data because we can't place the

Re: The futile war between Native and Web

2015-02-15 Thread Florian Bösch
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Anders Rundgren < anders.rundgren@gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately this is wrong and is why I started this thread. Mobile > banking applications in Europe are usually featured as "Apps". > This has multiple reasons; one is that there's no way to deal with > cl