Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-10 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 3 Dec 2009, at 11:24, Robin Berjon wrote: > It would be really great if you were to join this group. If you are already > following this list, and willing to make implementation proposals, it > wouldn't necessarily take more of your time than it already does — probably > no more than an extr

RE: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-03 Thread Marcin Hanclik
] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference +1, duplicating material is a recipe for disaster. regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:22 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: > On Dec 1, 2009, at 22:22 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: >&

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-03 Thread Frederick Hirsch
+1, duplicating material is a recipe for disaster. regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:22 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Dec 1, 2009, at 22:22 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: Can you please update this to just be a delta? As far as I know W3C specs, delta documents are u

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-03 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:12:23 +0100, Stephen Jolly wrote: Keeping things simple, the most compelling use case I can see (aka the one I care about...) is where the developer wants to write a widget that can access resources on a network with no centralised DNS or developer-predictable IP a

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-03 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:12 , Stephen Jolly wrote: > Keeping things simple, the most compelling use case I can see (aka the one I > care about...) is where the developer wants to write a widget that can access > resources on a network with no centralised DNS or developer-predictable IP > addresses.

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 2 Dec 2009, at 13:05, Marcin Hanclik wrote: > I am sorry for bypassing earlier comments, I want to answer them anyway asap. > So here comes short summary. > >>> What are we trying to solve? > Forgetting the UPnP and related stacks, the issues can be summarized as > follows: > - pattern for IP

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-02 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 2, 2009, at 14:48 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: > Ok, I agree. I will then add an excerpt about the "local" special value and > its processing model. Great! > It will be potentially extremely short. There's nothing wrong with that, short specs are good! -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/

RE: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-02 Thread Marcin Hanclik
-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Arthur Barstow; public-webapps Subject: Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-02 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 1, 2009, at 22:22 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: >>> Can you please update this to just be a delta? > As far as I know W3C specs, delta documents are usually errata or WG Notes. What we have been calling delta specification in WebApps are specifications that add to another. For instance, WARP add

RE: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-02 Thread Marcin Hanclik
lik Cc: public-webapps Subject: Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:18:43 +0100, Arthur Barstow wrote: > It would be helpful to have a clear definition of at least: the problem > statement, use case(s), requirement(s), security considerations, > proposed syntax and semantics

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-02 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:18:43 +0100, Arthur Barstow wrote: It would be helpful to have a clear definition of at least: the problem statement, use case(s), requirement(s), security considerations, proposed syntax and semantics, UA processing model. I would propose dropping any syntax and s

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-12-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:12 PM, ext Marcin Hanclik wrote: As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ This draft does not meet my expectations and

RE: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-12-01 Thread Marcin Hanclik
+49-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:24 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Arthur Barstow; public-webapps Subject: Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Marcin, On Nov 20, 2009, at 18:12 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: > As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with > the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ What we discussed on the call was actua

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Stephen, On Nov 30, 2009, at 19:13 , Stephen Jolly wrote: > On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:12, Marcin Hanclik wrote: >> As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with >> the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-11-30 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:12, Marcin Hanclik wrote: > As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with > the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ Clearly there are usage scenarios based on technologi

[WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-11-20 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi All, As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ Handling of local network is based on my proposal from [1]. Thanks, Marcin [1] http://lists.w3.o