Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-05 Thread Vincent Scheib
For those with threaded email clients, at Arthur's suggestion I've filed an issue to track this topic. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012OctDec/0040.html. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Rick Waldron wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Florian Bösch wrote: >

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Rick Waldron
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Florian Bösch wrote: > Speaking from the point of view of a web developer having to use this > feature. It is quite painful having to perform an end-run about failure modes > that are unspecified, undocumented and a moving target. In my understanding, >

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Florian Bösch
Speaking from the point of view of a web developer having to use this feature. It is quite painful having to perform an end-run about failure modes that are unspecified, undocumented and a moving target. In my understanding, this is precisely the intent of a specification, to avoid such incompatibi

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Olli Pettay
On 10/03/2012 12:59 AM, Florian Bösch wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Olli Pettay mailto:olli.pet...@helsinki.fi>> wrote: On 10/02/2012 11:55 PM, Florian Bösch wrote: I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria to determine if pointerlock succee

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Vincent Scheib
I agree that pointer lock is quite useful outside of fullscreen, but before attempting to codify that in the specification I would want buy in from other browser vendors. I can appreciate an argument to remain restricted to fullscreen. Application developers can automatically escalate to requestin

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Florian Bösch
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Olli Pettay wrote: > On 10/02/2012 11:55 PM, Florian Bösch wrote: > >> I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria >> to determine if pointerlock succeeds that are not outlined in the >> specification. Firefox uses the fullscreen change

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Olli Pettay
On 10/02/2012 11:55 PM, Florian Bösch wrote: I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria to determine if pointerlock succeeds that are not outlined in the specification. Firefox uses the fullscreen change event to determine failure and chrome requires the pointer lo

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Florian Bösch
I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria to determine if pointerlock succeeds that are not outlined in the specification. Firefox uses the fullscreen change event to determine failure and chrome requires the pointer lock request to fail if not resulting from a user i

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Pearce
On 27/09/12 08:37, Vincent Scheib wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/26/12 11:46 AM, ext Vincent Scheib wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: * Pointer Lock - Vincent - what's the status of the spec and its implementation? Firefox 14 a

Re: [pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-09-26 Thread Vincent Scheib
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > On 9/26/12 11:46 AM, ext Vincent Scheib wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Arthur Barstow >> wrote: >>> >>> * Pointer Lock - Vincent - what's the status of the spec and its >>> implementation? >> >> Firefox 14 and Chrome 22 shipp

[pointerlock] Is Pointer Lock feature complete i.e. LC ready? [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-09-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/26/12 11:46 AM, ext Vincent Scheib wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: * Pointer Lock - Vincent - what's the status of the spec and its implementation? Firefox 14 and Chrome 22 shipped Pointer Lock implementations to stable channel users recently. (Check out this