[push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Bryan, Eduardo, All, While working through the push notification versus push message thread, I noticed Push API directly refers to System Messages as defined by SysApps' [runtime] spec. Based on the Note at the top of [runtime], it appears work on that spec has stopped. As such, what is

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
One of the other changes in progress is to include service workers on the design of the API. I don't know if that replaces system messages in total but the necessary changes will be considered when a new draft is submitted. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Arthur Barstow

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Michael van Ouwerkerk
In Blink/Chrome we are looking into the Push API. We intend to use Service Workers as an alternative for System Messages. The idea is to fire an event in the SW when a push message is received. This has a big advantage: waking up a SW should be much faster than loading the whole document.

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, at 22:45, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: One of the other changes in progress is to include service workers on the design of the API. I don't know if that replaces system messages in total but the necessary changes will be considered when a new draft is submitted. System

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 3/13/14 1:52 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: System Messages are definitely abandoned, I do not think any specification should use them. Even in SysApps, we started working on something called Event Pages (similar to what Chrome Apps does) before Service Worker took off. Given this, seems

Re: [push-api] Dependency on System Messages

2014-03-13 Thread Marcos Caceres
On March 13, 2014 at 2:33:08 PM, Arthur Barstow (art.bars...@nokia.com) wrote: On 3/13/14 1:52 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: System Messages are definitely abandoned, I do not think any specification should use them. Even in SysApps, we started working on something called Event Pages