Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
Given the various issues and questions raised about this proposal, I don't support adding it to WebApps (at least not now). I do support work in this area and agree a new CG is one possibility. It also seems like the work could be argued as in scope for the native Web apps CG which includes ap

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-15 Thread Tobie Langel
>I'm not particularly set on one direction to solve this problem. I just >want to get it solved, and if SPDY, along with a much improved >programmatically controllable appCache is the preferred solution, let's >go for it. > > >I, along with probably plenty of other web developers, am still >inexper

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-15 Thread Paul Bakaus
ckalm...@gmail.com>> Cc: Paul Bakaus mailto:pbak...@zynga.com>>, "public-webapps@w3.org<mailto:public-webapps@w3.org>" mailto:public-webapps@w3.org>> Betreff: Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression I would agree with this. My initial thought whe

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Yehuda Katz
I would agree with this. My initial thought when reading the proposal was SPDY as well. That said, there is ongoing discussion about improving the app-cache that is also relevant[1]. I am also planning on opening a discussion about programmatic control of a cache (probably not piggy-backed onto ap

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Paul Bakaus wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This is a proposal to add a packaging format transparent to browsers to the > charter. At Zynga, we have identified this as one of our most pressuring > issues. Developers want to be able to send a collection of assets to the

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
I have the itching feeling that a Community Group might be the right place to do the exploratory work. Once there is a solid proposal for standardization (and hopefully a prototype), it should be brought back here. To start a community group: http://www.w3.org/community/ And since we are top

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Though I don't know what shape this will take, I think this is definitely worth vigorous research and discussion. Without trying to derail this effort, I am somewhat interested in how this thinking can be applied to Web Components, since components may want to be coupled with various assets. :DG<

Re: CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 2/14/2012 1:24 AM, Paul Bakaus wrote: window.loadPackage('package.webpf', function() { var img = new Image(); img.src = "package.webpf/myImage.png"; }) Or alternatively, with a local storage system (I prefer option one): window.loadPackage('package.webpf', function(files) { fi

CfC: Proposal to add web packaging / asset compression

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Bakaus
Hi everybody, This is a proposal to add a packaging format transparent to browsers to the charter. At Zynga, we have identified this as one of our most pressuring issues. Developers want to be able to send a collection of assets to the browser through a single request, instead of hundreds. Tod