On 30/06/2014 07:22 , Johannes Wilm wrote:
Another use case: Create a track changes function within an editor (like
https://github.com/NYTimes/ice ) that really should be run MVC in order
to keep the code somewhat readable. Currently ICE breaks whenever any of
the browser makers decide to change
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:54:36 +0300, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote:
On 30/06/2014 07:22 , Johannes Wilm wrote:
Another use case: Create a track changes function within an editor (like
https://github.com/NYTimes/ice ) that really should be run MVC in order
to keep the code somewhat readable.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Johannes Wilm johan...@fiduswriter.org wrote:
Another use case: Create a track changes function within an editor (like
https://github.com/NYTimes/ice ) that really should be run MVC in order to
keep the code somewhat readable. Currently ICE breaks whenever any
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
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On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
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I agree these all seem the same. Here are a few other use cases I can
think of:
* Create a web-based structured content editor, where the
On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Johannes Wilm johan...@fiduswriter.org wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
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On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
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I agree these all seem the same. Here are a few other use cases I
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Johannes Wilm johan...@fiduswriter.org
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
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- Web-based DTP application: The app can creates a document that
Another use case: Create a track changes function within an editor (like
https://github.com/NYTimes/ice ) that really should be run MVC in order to
keep the code somewhat readable. Currently ICE breaks whenever any of the
browser makers decide to change anything about contenteditable.
On Fri,
On 24/06/2014 20:09 , Ben Peters wrote:
Works for me. Should I just scare up a draft? It is likely to be a pretty short
spec :)
I'm really looking forward to getting things sorted out! But I think
we may want to take a step back and make sure we all agree on the
problem, goals, and use cases,
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote:
On 24/06/2014 20:09 , Ben Peters wrote:
Problems:
* ContentEditable is too complex and buggy to be usable as-is
* ContentEditable does not easily enable the wide range of editing
scenarios
Complex and buggy aren't
On 23/06/2014 18:25 , Julie Parent wrote:
Well stated. I like contentEditable=cursor.
Works for me. Should I just scare up a draft? It is likely to be a
pretty short spec :)
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On 23/06/2014 18:25 , Julie Parent wrote:
Well stated. I like contentEditable=cursor.
Works for me. Should I just scare up a draft? It is likely to be a pretty
short
spec :)
I'm really looking forward to getting things sorted out! But I think we may
want
On 17/06/2014 02:12 , Julie Parent wrote:
If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope, I think this
leads us back to the question of what would contentEditable='minimal' do
exactly? Enable collapsed selections and default handling of cursor
movement ... anything else? If this is
Well stated. I like contentEditable=cursor.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote:
On 17/06/2014 02:12 , Julie Parent wrote:
If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope, I think this
leads us back to the question of what would
On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On
On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.com wrote:
I think that first we need to clarify how we understand some
terms/concepts, because I was confused many times and I'm afraid that I
also haven't been understood correctly.
1. Separation of basic user intent events and rich command events.
Examples:
* user intent events - insert character
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.com
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Piotr Koszuliński p.koszulin...@cksource.com
wrote:
I think that first we need to clarify how we understand some terms/concepts,
because I was confused many times and I'm afraid that I also haven't been
understood correctly.
1. Separation of basic user intent
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
An app can have a cursor that isn't a native browser cursor. For example,
Google Docs does not use native browser cursors and draws their own, so that
Oh right, of course. Thank-you.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com
wrote:
An app can have a cursor that isn't a
If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope, I think this
leads us back to the question of what would contentEditable='minimal' do
exactly? Enable collapsed selections and default handling of cursor
movement ... anything else? If this is all it would do, then perhaps what
we really
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope,
I don’t think I’d say they’re out of scope, just that they will likely not be
ready as quickly as we could do contentEditable=’minimal’. Do you agree with
that?
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope,
I don’t think I’d say they’re out of scope, just that they will likely not
be ready
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote:
Yes. I really like the idea of explicitly enabling what you want and of
separating the concepts. Being able to turn on commandEvents independent of
a cursor seems useful. An API like this leaves far fewer questions of
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