RE: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] Author, was: RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
On Behalf Of Paddy Byers [pa...@aplix.co.jp] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:13 AM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Thomas Roessler; Hillebrand, Rainer; marc...@opera.com; public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] Author, was: RE: AW:

Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] Author, was: RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Paddy Byers
Hi, I have been trying to identify the term author in Widget specs. I think we're in danger of getting into details that are irrelevant for the P&C specification. This spec should define what information is asserted by the presence of the author and distributor signatures. It is up to a consum

[BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] Author, was: RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
rg; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi Thomas, Nice suggestion, but I am not sure whether it will survive in the real world and be abandoned or replaced by other interpretations. [I personally associate the author with the widget

RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
r [...@w3.org] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:38 PM To: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: marc...@opera.com; pa...@aplix.co.jp; public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Suggestion: > The author signature

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Thomas Roessler
Suggestion: The author signature asserts that the signing party is an author of the widget, and binds the author's identity to the widget package. Regards, -- Thomas Roessler, W3C On 26 Mar 2009, at 17:20, Hillebrand, Rainer wrote: Dear Marcos, We cannot technically guarantee that

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
essler [...@w3.org] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:05 PM To: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: frederick.hir...@nokia.com; mark.priest...@vodafone.com; marc...@opera.com ; pa...@aplix.co.jp; public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new d

RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft What the author certificate lets you verify is whether a single party is taking responsibility for two widgets. There is indeed no *proof* of authorship here, but a statement that the signer is willing to assume the blame for

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
I think the draft provides enough assurance for the intended level of use. If you want higher levels of assurance more will be required, but I don't believe we have a requirement here for that. regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:20 PM, ext Hillebrand, Rainer

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
(removing cross-posting since it doesn't work for mail from everyone) I'd like to point out that section 5.2 says what an author signature *can* do. I'm strongly against muddying this to account for various edge cases - I agree with Thomas that the meaning is clear. However I understand the

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture & Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Thomas Roessler
What the author certificate lets you verify is whether a single party is taking responsibility for two widgets. There is indeed no *proof* of authorship here, but a statement that the signer is willing to assume the blame for being the widget's author. Which is all we need, no? -- Thomas