RE: File writing ponderings (was: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy)

2009-11-22 Thread Marcin Hanclik
.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Boodman [...@google.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:31 AM To: Jonas Sicking Cc: Robin Berjon; Adam Barth; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: File writing ponderings (was: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy) On Sat, Nov

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-21 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 00:22 , Adam Barth wrote: It's emails like this that make me skeptical of the security work being done in the device APIs working group. *sigh* I feel like a broken record. It feels like I've spent my

File writing ponderings (was: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy)

2009-11-21 Thread Jonas Sicking
Starting a new thread since the other one was more of a meta-discussion, this one has more technical meat on it. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 17:40 , Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com

Re: File writing ponderings (was: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy)

2009-11-21 Thread Aaron Boodman
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hmm.. This is a very interesting idea. Definitely worth exploring more. What I had in mind was basically something like this: 1. An API for creating File objects by concatinating strings, Blobs, ByteArrays (or whatever

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Marcin Hanclik
[mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:04 AM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Maciej Stachowiak; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Marcin Hanclik marcin.hanc

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Jeremy Orlow
-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Marcin Hanclik marcin.hanc...@access-company.com wrote: Hi Adam, I think that resource-match attr=param:name func

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Frederick Hirsch
From: Maciej Stachowiak [...@apple.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:26 AM To: Jonas Sicking Cc: Marcin Hanclik; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org ; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonas Sicking

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Jeremy Orlow
From: Maciej Stachowiak [...@apple.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:26 AM To: Jonas Sicking Cc: Marcin Hanclik; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonas Sicking

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Frederick Hirsch
...@nokia.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:29 PM To: ext Jeremy Orlow Cc: Frederick Hirsch; Marcin Hanclik; Maciej Stachowiak; Jonas Sicking; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public- webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy Jeremy Thanks. I

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Sicking; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy Marcin do you have any more comment on any of the following from the draft policy requirements document? http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/policy-reqs/#use-cases Example

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 20, 2009, at 01:26 , Maciej Stachowiak wrote: For what it's worth, I think any API that opened a dialog asking the user Do you want to give website X access to directory Y in your file system would not be an API we'd be willing to implement in firefox. I.e. our security policy would be

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: DAP will handle security at the API definition level. Full stop. Can you elaborate on what this means concretely? For example, how is security handled at the API definition level for the file writing API? Adam

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 20, 2009, at 17:40 , Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: DAP will handle security at the API definition level. Full stop. Can you elaborate on what this means concretely? For example, how is security handled at the API definition

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-20 Thread richard.tibbett
: 20 November 2009 15:13 To: Frederick Hirsch; ext Jeremy Orlow Cc: Maciej Stachowiak; Jonas Sicking; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy Hi, Reliably identified Websites can send and receive SMS

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Adam, Thanks for your review! This is what the BONDI specs need :) I am sorry that you are skeptical and believe that with joint forces BONDI and DAP will end up with a good solution. If I understand this policy correctly, this would let a web site overwrite boot.ini if the user clicks

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: Maciej Stachowiak; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy Hi Adam, Thanks for your review! This is what the BONDI specs need :) I am sorry that you are skeptical and believe that with joint forces BONDI and DAP

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Marcin Hanclik marcin.hanc...@access-company.com wrote: Hi Adam, I think that resource-match attr=param:name func=regexp/(C|c):\\(.+)\\(.+)/resource-match / should be resource-match attr=param:name func=regexp/(C|c):\\([^\\]+)\\.+/resource-match / up to

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Adam, Thanks for your review! This is what the BONDI specs need :) I am sorry that you are skeptical and believe that with joint forces BONDI and DAP will end up with a good solution. If I understand this policy correctly, this would

Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Marcin Hanclik marcin.hanc...@access-company.com wrote: Hi Adam, I think that resource-match attr=param:name func=regexp/(C|c):\\(.+)\\(.+)/ resource-match / should be resource-match attr=param:name

RE: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy

2009-11-19 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Stachowiak [...@apple.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:26 AM To: Jonas Sicking Cc: Marcin Hanclik; Adam Barth; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; public-webapps WG Subject: Re: Security evaluation of an example DAP policy On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Nov 19