> Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 10:54:03 +0500 > From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patra...@gmail.com> > To: General PulseAudio Discussion > <pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org> > Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PulseAudio null sink monitor gives > distorted audio randomly > Message-ID: > <CAN_LGv15swrn8H-GRV9FOi4HnjpHG=jNNiS=2qenhp0hssf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Mikael Nousiainen <mikaelnousiai...@fastmail.com>: > > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 20:49, > > pulseaudio-discuss-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org wrote: > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:31:52 +0500 > > > From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patra...@gmail.com> > > > To: General PulseAudio Discussion > > > <pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org> > > > Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PulseAudio null sink monitor gives > > > distorted audio randomly > > > Message-ID: <e96e0c84-6a83-78f5-dab3-60a39b6eb...@gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > > > [resending to the list, really this time] > > > > > > On 11/8/18 7:44 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > > > > > > The problem is most likely due to this bug regarding monitor sources: > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/304 > > > > > > > > Whenever the monitored sink has a rewind, a chunk of audio is > > > > apparently duplicated in the monitor source. It would be great if > > > > someone could figure out what goes wrong in the monitor rewinding code. > > > > > > Let me quote the main mistake, from src/pulse/stream.h: > > > > > > > * The latency is stored in \a *r_usec. In case the stream is a > > > > * monitoring stream the result can be negative, i.e. the captured > > > > * samples are not yet played. In this case \a *negative is set to 1. > > > > > > I.e., the design mistake is that monitor sources allow one to capture > > > samples that have not yet been played. This is always wrong, as those > > > samples can be overwritten by a rewind, and there is no "uncapture" to > > > compensate. So the fix would be to make sure that monitor sources > > > capture not what was just written to them, but what was actually played > > > and can no longer be overwritten. I.e., change the latency from negative > > > to small positive. > > > > > > -- > > > Alexander E. Patrakov > > > > Thanks for digging into this! > > > > Some questions: > > > > 1. Is there any workaround for this without a proper bugfix and a new > > release? > > 2. Is this a question of buffer underrun / jitter bcause of CPU usage? > > What is the cause for "monitor rewinds", why is it needed? > > 3. Why are the artifacts gone sometimes and sometimes the appear after > > PulseAudio restart? > > 1. No. > 2. This is unlikely to be related to CPU usage. Rewinds typically > happen when new streams appear, or when something changes the volume. > To figure out for sure, please run PulseAudio with very very verbose > logging, see below. It will then announce the reason for each rewind. > 3. No idea, see the log. > > Actually, it is still only a speculation (or, if you prefer, educated > guess) that your problem is related to rewinds. If PulseAudio does not > log anything about a rewind, then that's not it. > > Here is how to run PulseAudio with very very verbose logging; > > 1. Edit ~/.config/pulse/client.conf, so that it contains exactly one line: > autospawn=no > > 2. systemctl --user stop pulseaudio.socket pulseaudio.service > > 3. pulseaudio -vvv 2>&1 | tee -i pulseaudio.log > > 4. Reproduce the problem > > 5. Ctrl+C, revert the change to ~/.config/pulse/client.conf, systemctl > --user start pulseaudio.socket pulseaudio.service > > 6. Send the log here. > > -- > Alexander E. Patrakov
Four takes on verbose logs here: https://we.tl/t-a94jpZtBnN During the first run (the files are accordingly named), I did not get artifacts and WSJT-X was decoding the audio signal fine. For runs 2-4 I got distorted audio only and was not able to get clean audio even after starting PulseAudio "normally" through systemctl and restarting all browsers and other PulseAudio clients. I noticed "Scheduling delay" / "Underrun" messages even during the first "successful" run and they did not seem to affect audio. The same messages continued even when listening through speakers briefly and I couldn't hear any popping / distortion. -Mikael _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss
