[pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-19 Thread Glenn Golden
Not sure if this is a bug or braindamage on my part. In view of the doc for the "--check" option, I was surprised at the following: As ordinary user 'gdg' (under which PA daemon is running): $ id uid=501(gdg) gid=501(gdg) groups=501(gdg),19(log),92(audio), \ 190(systemd-journal)

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-19 Thread Glenn Golden
Sorry, neglected to provide version info: It's pulseaudio 5.0 from Arch linux package pulseaudio-5.0-1. ___ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-19 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 13:44 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Not sure if this is a bug or braindamage on my part. In view of the doc > for the "--check" option, I was surprised at the following: > > As ordinary user 'gdg' (under which PA daemon is running): > > $ id > uid=501(gdg) gid=501(gdg

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-20 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
(added pulseaudio-discuss back to CC) On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 16:26 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-19 23:21:58 +0300]: > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 13:44 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > $ pulseaudio -v --check > > > I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon not running > > > > > >

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-20 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-20 13:26:19 +0300]: > > (added pulseaudio-discuss back to CC) > Thx, I hit the wrong button on the reply earlier. > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 16:26 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > This is completely misleading: The test that is performed by the --check > > option evidently ha

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-21 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 06:15 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-20 13:26:19 +0300]: > > > > (added pulseaudio-discuss back to CC) > > > Thx, I hit the wrong button on the reply earlier. > > > > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 16:26 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > This is completely misl

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-22 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-21 15:31:13 +0300]: > On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 06:15 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-20 13:26:19 +0300]: > > > > > > (added pulseaudio-discuss back to CC) > > > > > Thx, I hit the wrong button on the reply earlier. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-22 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Fri, 2014-08-22 at 05:55 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-21 15:31:13 +0300]: > > On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 06:15 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-20 13:26:19 +0300]: > > > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 16:26 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > > > This is complete

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-23 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu, Felipe, Writing up some text now for the --check option. Further below is what I have so far. A lot longer than the original, but it attempts to cover everything that has been mentioned in the thread thus far. However, while verifying some of the statements made in the proposed text (by doi

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-24 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 08:41 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Tanu, Felipe, > > Writing up some text now for the --check option. Further below is what I have > so far. A lot longer than the original, but it attempts to cover everything > that has been mentioned in the thread thus far. > > However, whi

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-24 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-24 13:33:26 +0300]: > On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 08:41 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > > The experiments seem to indicate that if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is EITHER > > unset OR if it points to a directory or pid file which is inaccessible > > or non- existent, then the $HOM

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-25 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Sun, 2014-08-24 at 07:55 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-24 13:33:26 +0300]: > > On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 08:41 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > > 4. Even better than answering 1-3: Do you know of any extant PulseAudio > > > doc > > > that could be cited which describes in

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-26 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu Kaskinen [2014-08-25 13:53:38 +0300]: > > We should document what the purpose of the --check operation is. The > implementation details don't matter, unless there are some caveats that > the user should be aware of. > Agree, except in cases (such as --check, unfortunately) where it seems

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-27 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 07:18 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Here are some pre-questions that I'll need to understand before even starting > to tackle the Wiki description of the runtime dirs and pid files: > > > * --start: >

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-08-31 Thread Glenn Golden
Hi Tanu, OK, next batch of questions pertaining to the Wiki writeup. (Just remember: I warned you... :) ) Some of these probably seem off-topic relative to runtime dirs and pid files, but what's happened is that it seems almost impossible to discuss that narrow topic satisfactorily without also a

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-09-02 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 19:45 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > Hi Tanu, > > OK, next batch of questions pertaining to the Wiki writeup. (Just remember: > I warned you... :) ) > > Some of these probably seem off-topic relative to runtime dirs and pid files, > but what's happened is that it seems almost

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-09-08 Thread Glenn Golden
Quickie question, relating (indirectly) to the info that David provided on server association: Suppose I want to run a user PAD on hostA, and allow it to accept control connections from (say) pavucontrol or pactl running on hostB. How does one set things up to permit that? Trying "pactl --serve

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-09-09 Thread David Henningsson
On 2014-09-08 20:44, Glenn Golden wrote: Quickie question, relating (indirectly) to the info that David provided on server association: Suppose I want to run a user PAD on hostA, and allow it to accept control connections from (say) pavucontrol or pactl running on hostB. How does one set thin

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-09-13 Thread Glenn Golden
Tanu Kaskinen [2014-09-02 13:24:00 +0300]: > On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 19:45 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > > Hi Tanu, > > > > OK, next batch of questions pertaining to the Wiki writeup. (Just remember: > > I warned you... :) ) > > > > Some of these probably seem off-topic relative to runtime dirs and

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] --check option seems not to work from su(1) as daemon user

2014-09-14 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 09:12 -0600, Glenn Golden wrote: > A few loose-end questions if you have time: > > * Can you point me to any doc that describes the semantics of > PULSE_RUNTIME_PATH? It's not mentioned in pulse-daemon.conf.5 or in > pulseaudio.1. (It doesn't even show up on the fi