Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-11-02 Thread David Kågedal
Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net writes: On Fri, 30.10.09 08:15, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 02:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: This is admittedly a problem, but I kinda hope that it will fix itself by applications tagging event

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-11-02 Thread David Kågedal
David Kågedal dav...@lysator.liu.se writes: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net writes: On Fri, 30.10.09 08:15, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 02:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: This is admittedly a problem, but I kinda hope that it will

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-11-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and David Kågedal at 02/11/09 12:02 did gyre and gimble: David Kågedal dav...@lysator.liu.se writes: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net writes: On Fri, 30.10.09 08:15, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 02:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-11-02 Thread David Kågedal
Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie writes: And by the way, neither is mentioned in http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#WhatenvironmentvariablesdoesPulseAudiocareabout Indeed, that should be updated. Feel free to make the changes :) Done. But since I don't really know anything I couldn't write

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:13 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: This beeb should be marked with media.role=event and thus should be adjustable via the Sound Events slider in pavucontrol should control your volume. That said, I'm not 100% certain how metacity produces this sound, but I suspect

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Brian J. Murrell at 30/10/09 11:54 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:13 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: This beeb should be marked with media.role=event and thus should be adjustable via the Sound Events slider in pavucontrol should control your volume. That said,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 07:54, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:13 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: This beeb should be marked with media.role=event and thus should be adjustable via the Sound Events slider in pavucontrol should control your volume. That

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 12:23, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Brian J. Murrell at 30/10/09 11:54 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:13 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: This beeb should be marked with media.role=event and thus should be adjustable via the Sound

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 08:15, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 02:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: This is admittedly a problem, but I kinda hope that it will fix itself by applications tagging event sounds properly. I'm sceptical. I certainly

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 19:11, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: This is admittedly a problem, but I kinda hope that it will fix itself by applications tagging event sounds properly. Even for legacy applications you can do that with minimal work most of the time: If the options

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
If the options are: 1. Fix it once in pulseaudio, and win all applications working right, even legacy unmaintained ones that nobody's ever going to fix, or 2. Wait for all the application developers to get on board with a new protocol, even if they aren't maintained any more .. I'll

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 10:54, Jeremy Nickurak (jer...@nickurak.ca) wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 19:11, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: This is admittedly a problem, but I kinda hope that it will fix itself by applications tagging event sounds properly. Even for legacy

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 16:36 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Uh. What distro is this? Ubuntu's latest: Karmic. metacity has been supporting libcanberra for ages. Please ask your distributors to update their packages from time to time, 2.28.0 would be the latest I'd imagine. Must be in

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 18:23, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: metacity has been supporting libcanberra for ages. Please ask your distributors to update their packages from time to time, 2.28.0 would be the latest I'd imagine. Must be in how they build it. Looking at the

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Daniel Chen
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Dunno, maybe the PA backend for libcanberra is not installed? Ubuntu really should install that by default. It's kinda disappointing if they don't. Please file a bug against Ubuntu. The PA backend for libcanberra

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:28 -0400, Daniel Chen wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Dunno, maybe the PA backend for libcanberra is not installed? Ubuntu really should install that by default. It's kinda disappointing if they don't.

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 30.10.09 22:13, Brian J. Murrell (br...@interlinx.bc.ca) wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:28 -0400, Daniel Chen wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Dunno, maybe the PA backend for libcanberra is not installed? Ubuntu really

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Daniel Chen
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: Ah ha.  But somebody said backend  That above looks like metacity/libcanberra are using an ALSA backend.  Let's see what kind of pulse alternative there is...  Yup...  Just installed libcanberra-pulse.  Let's see

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 03:27 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Hmm, how come this wasn't installed? Is your machine a pristine installation? If my guess about what you mean by pristine installation is right, then I'd probably have to answer no. It's grown up through various Ubuntu releases

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 23:01 -0400, Daniel Chen wrote: Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? I didn't. I do recall removing that at one time because there was a dependency it sucked in that I didn't like. I've just re-installed it (and the 10 dozen extra packages it brought in). Let's see

[pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-29 Thread Brian J. Murrell
How could I set the volume (i.e. with pavucontrol) for a short lived audio stream such as the beep that metacity now delivers, for example when you echo ^G? Using PA 0.9.19 now. Cheers, b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-29 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Brian J. Murrell at 29/10/09 19:55 did gyre and gimble: How could I set the volume (i.e. with pavucontrol) for a short lived audio stream such as the beep that metacity now delivers, for example when you echo ^G? Using PA 0.9.19 now. This beeb should be marked with

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-29 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
That does rely on applications behaving well. What about a short-lived alsa audio program? There should be a way to apply a match to these too... maybe a history of streams? Or simply a minimum time that streams live in pavumeter before it disappears? On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 15:13, Colin Guthrie

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] setting a volume on a short lived stream

2009-10-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 29.10.09 15:43, Jeremy Nickurak (jer...@nickurak.ca) wrote: That does rely on applications behaving well. What about a short-lived alsa audio program? There should be a way to apply a match to these too... maybe a history of streams? Or simply a minimum time that streams live in