Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet Dev Status -- week ending Feb 21

2015-02-23 Thread Trevor Vaughan
HmmI suppose it might not matter as much so long as we get people used to using 'puppet config print ssldir'. That said, the SSL directory is one of those critical items to back up on your system and the principal of least surprise would be nice here. Honestly using /etc/pki (RHEL) or /etc/ss

[Puppet-dev] [announce] beaker 2.5.0 released

2015-02-23 Thread Alice Nodelman
More details here: https://github.com/puppetlabs/beaker/blob/master/HISTORY.md#LATEST High Fives! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-de

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Thoughts on Module Namespace Conflicts

2015-02-23 Thread Spencer Krum
The use case I think for having multiple modules of the same name available is quite limited. I don't think anyone would claim best practice if they had two apache modules in their modulepath. I also think there is another component which is versioning. Right now there is no system for a profile m

Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet Dev Status -- week ending Feb 21

2015-02-23 Thread Jeff McCune
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Trevor Vaughan wrote: > Yes please. Moving this out of $vardir/ssl will be quite irritating to > teach existing users about the new product usage. > Even if we kept it in $vardir/ssl, this would mean the path is /opt/puppetlabs/puppet/cache/ssl rather than /var/

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Chris Price
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Trevor Vaughan wrote: Well, without 'include' statements, you'd better add some ordering to your > puppetlabs-hocon module. > > Currently, auth.conf is order dependent and I don't really see how you're > going to change that (so you probably need ordering anyway).

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Trevor Vaughan
Well, without 'include' statements, you'd better add some ordering to your puppetlabs-hocon module. Currently, auth.conf is order dependent and I don't really see how you're going to change that (so you probably need ordering anyway). I suppose you could add some systemd-like before/after/depends

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Chris Price
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote: > That works. I just put in a feature request against Hiera for a HOCON > native back end :-D. > Good idea! Also, if you'd pop out some native types that can manipulate these things, > that would be nifty. > This should probably be conside

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Brice Figureau
Hi Eric, Thanks for your comments, those will be very helpful. See below for some answers/comments. On 23/02/2015 06:18, Eric Sorenson wrote: > >> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Brice Figureau >> mailto:brice-pup...@daysofwonder.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Following a conversation I had with K

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Eric Sorenson
On Feb 23, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Henrik Lindberg wrote: > On 2015-23-02 17:47, Chris Price wrote: >> Totally agree that we have too many formats. That's why we tried to put >> a lot of thought into picking one that we think is robust enough to >> standardize on going forward. :) Also, the current

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Trevor Vaughan
Hmmcan we push some of this down into Environments? It would be nice to have different auth.conf's (and the others) per environment so that I don't have to bust out my regex-fu every time. Thanks, Trevor On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Henrik Lindberg < henrik.lindb...@cloudsmith.com> wrot

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Trevor Vaughan
That works. I just put in a feature request against Hiera for a HOCON native back end :-D. Also, if you'd pop out some native types that can manipulate these things, that would be nifty. While I'm at it, 'include' statements should be available in all config files since includes > concat for orde

[Puppet-dev] Re: Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Henrik Lindberg
On 2015-23-02 17:47, Chris Price wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Trevor Vaughan mailto:tvaug...@onyxpoint.com>> wrote: Sorry to derail for the moment but HOCON + JSON + YAML + XML? Sounds great.. Totally agree that we have too many formats. That's why we tried to put a lot

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Chris Price
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote: > Sorry to derail for the moment but HOCON + JSON + YAML + XML? Sounds > great. > Totally agree that we have too many formats. That's why we tried to put a lot of thought into picking one that we think is robust enough to standardize on

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Trevor Vaughan
Sorry to derail for the moment but HOCON + JSON + YAML + XML? Sounds great. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Chris Price wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Eric Sorenson < > eric.soren...@puppetlabs.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi Brice! This project is really cool, thanks for taking it on. I

Re: [Puppet-dev] Clojure authorization system for SERVER-111...

2015-02-23 Thread Chris Price
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Eric Sorenson wrote: > > Hi Brice! This project is really cool, thanks for taking it on. I have a > few comments about requirements and design that I hope can save some work > and make it easier to include this upstream once it's done. > > I went back and surveyed