Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-07-02 Thread Jakov Sosic
On 05/04/2013 02:25 PM, Luke Bigum wrote: On Saturday, May 4, 2013 12:43:57 PM UTC+1, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Schofield > wrote: > Everything else is managed by puppet. Do you manage complex network setups (bonding, routing) via puppet? There is a

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-07-02 Thread Jakov Sosic
On 05/04/2013 01:43 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Schofield wrote: Everything else is managed by puppet. Do you manage complex network setups (bonding, routing) via puppet? There is a certain degree of chicken-and-egg in that; how do you handle managing configurat

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-07 Thread Bernardo Costa
Yes, that's what I meant, if it were available I would use it. But I don't think useradd knows how to deal with it because AFAIK it only creates local users. The same about /etc/passwd could be said about /etc/sysconfig/network. You might want to control it partially only, not the whole content

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Bernardo Costa wrote: > Well, I'll tell you that for now some kind of configuration is difficult to > be done with puppet. At least I couldn't find a way to do it. Ex: > controlling a /etc/passwd file but partially with a libnss compat syntax. > This means entries o

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Larry Fast wrote: > What about the larger processes involved in incremental updates? Eg. > sequencing your updates so that the service keeps running. I'm considering > using Jenkins to orchestrate sequencial activity. Coming from an ISConf background, I'd do it

[Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-06 Thread Bernardo Costa
Well, I'll tell you that for now some kind of configuration is difficult to be done with puppet. At least I couldn't find a way to do it. Ex: controlling a /etc/passwd file but partially with a libnss compat syntax. This means entries of local users are no controlled but entries beginning with

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-05 Thread Larry Fast
What about the larger processes involved in incremental updates? Eg. sequencing your updates so that the service keeps running. I'm considering using Jenkins to orchestrate sequencial activity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" grou

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-04 Thread Luke Bigum
On Saturday, May 4, 2013 12:43:57 PM UTC+1, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Schofield > > wrote: > > Everything else is managed by puppet. > > Do you manage complex network setups (bonding, routing) via puppet? > There is a certain degree of chicken-and-egg in that; ho

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Schofield wrote: > Everything else is managed by puppet. Do you manage complex network setups (bonding, routing) via puppet? There is a certain degree of chicken-and-egg in that; how do you handle managing configuration without breaking the network that delivers th

[Puppet Users] Re: Practices: what _not_ to manage with Puppet?

2013-05-03 Thread Schofield
I want everything managed by puppet because if it is not it only adds operational complexity into the environment. I have found that using kickstart to bootstrap puppet works well. Kickstart does the minimum to get puppet running (root volume group, temporary network, puppet rpms) and the la