On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
> You'd be surprised at how many dev environments aren't "MVC" oriented;
> wordpress and drupal have somehow become frameworks themselves, with too
> many people building insanity on top of them. Many of those are looking to
> get out of ex
On 9/2/13 1:12 AM, Roberto Guerra wrote:
Thank you, that explains it. Will give it a try. The Class Views section in
the Quick Tour could probably mention that the methods can take the same
view_config options as the 'function views'. It was a little unclear from
looking at the example what told
> Yet this is what's behind the question. They want to make sure they
> don't get stuck in spaghetti-code, and "MVC" is the way they've been
> taught to express this concern. You can allay this with just a
> passing sentence drawing attention to the separation between the
> models and the di
Yes, that is what I meant. I was pointing out that the docs generally set
one route for the class View before the class declaration. So for a numb
skull like me, that means that the View only has one route. Was just
pointing out how some of us can misinterpret the documentation.
On Monday, Sept
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Roberto Guerra wrote:
> For example, class-based views, I still don't grok it. If you are
> coming from Rails, for example, you can have multiple routes inside a 'class
> view', but in Pyramid it appears that you can only have one route per class
> view.
You can ha
On 9/2/13 1:12 AM, Roberto Guerra wrote:
Thank you, that explains it. Will give it a try. The Class Views section in
the Quick Tour could probably mention that the methods can take the same
view_config options as the 'function views'. It was a little unclear from
looking at the example what told
Thank you, that explains it. Will give it a try. The Class Views section in
the Quick Tour could probably mention that the methods can take the same
view_config options as the 'function views'. It was a little unclear from
looking at the example what told pyramid to render the edit form or the
On 09/02/2013 12:40 AM, Roberto Guerra wrote:
Sorry, but I don't think any server-side web framework is MVC. People
that ask about are generally just using buzz terms like SOA, Web
Services, MVC, etc without understanding the concepts. The javascript
front-end frameworks are more MVC than the ser
Sorry, but I don't think any server-side web framework is MVC. People that
ask about are generally just using buzz terms like SOA, Web Services, MVC,
etc without understanding the concepts. The javascript front-end frameworks
are more MVC than the server-side frameworks.
As for the Quick Tour,
On 09/01/2013 02:24 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
Especially since, doesn't Rails have MVC frameworks now? I know
they've been backporting some things from the Python frameworks.
AFAIK, Rails always "had MVC" and was the tip of the "MVC" spear. It
made the term "MVC" popular in relation to web framew
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On 09/01/2013 12:24 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
> And furthermore, what framework isn't "MVC" these days? I find it kind of
> hard to believe that there's an untapped wellspring of developers that are
> currently using raw PHP/ASP;
Yet thi
On 09/01/2013 12:24 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
I think of the QuickTour as an exec summary. I've gone through similar
overviews in other frameworks/projects/etc been instantly in love, or
will summarily dismiss it. Why? Because some overviews make it seem
like you only have one option/method
I think of the QuickTour as an exec summary. I've gone through similar
overviews in other frameworks/projects/etc been instantly in love, or will
summarily dismiss it. Why? Because some overviews make it seem like you
only have one option/method of getting something done ( which is true for
On 8/31/13 at 9:10 AM, paulwever...@gmail.com (Paul Everitt) pronounced:
It might also make sense to add something to the effect of "Insofar as to
offer some clarity to people familiar with MVC or MVT patterns, Pyramid's
Resource View approach offers a similarly structured separation of data
sto
On 8/14/13 4:45 PM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
quick thoughts...
C Extensions
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/master/quick_tour.html#python-setup
Also, Pyramid has some optional C extensions for performance
might be nice to link to which ones.
My guess is that this is too m
quick thoughts...
C Extensions
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/master/quick_tour.html#python-setup
> Also, Pyramid has some optional C extensions for performance
might be nice to link to which ones.
Pyramid for Web Developers
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid
Now merged and available at:
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/master/
If anybody has some time and is willing to go through the Quick Tour:
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/master/quick_tour.html
..I'd appreciate it. If you find something wrong, email me d
Thank you for doing all the work. This will make it easier for
me to guide newbies through an introduction to Pyramid at user
group meetings.
Speaking of which, if you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, I
will be attending the following meetups to test drive the new
documentation that Paul w
tl;dr New "Quick Tour" docs in the official docs ("The Book") as part of effort
to appeal to "Getting Started" audience
Hi everybody. Last year Chris raised some funds for a documentation effort.
After some false starts, we have a `docs.gettingstarted` branch ready to merge
today as the comple
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