Re: CCL:[MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-19 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
At 10:41 13/12/2002 +0100, Konrad Hinsen wrote: Gustavo Mercier writes: >As a suggestion, let's consider the chemistry implementation of XML -- CML. Whatever the details of the object "molecule", it >would be beneficial to input and output to/from CML. A specification of "molecule" based on

Re: [Pyquante-users] Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-13 Thread Konrad Hinsen
> Thanks for the reminder about FSAtom. Maybe we should start a > discussion somewhere about what needs to be included in either a common > file format or a common interface. That would be a good occasion to start real activity on the FSAtom mailing list. Anyone can subscribe at http://w

Re: [Pyquante-users] Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-13 Thread Richard Muller
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:41 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: As a suggestion, let's consider the chemistry implementation of XML -- CML. Whatever the details of the object "molecule", it would be beneficial to input and output to/from CML. A specification of I don't agree. I looked at CML

Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-13 Thread Richard Muller
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 11:31 PM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: The question is whether the will exists to do this? Many of the toolkits On my side, yes. As well as on mine (PyQuante). Rick Muller r...@wag.caltech.edu http://wag.caltech.edu/home/rpm

Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-13 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Gustavo Mercier writes: > to the chemistry of a problem. In advanced undergraduate course, an > instructor may wish to breakthrough the "black box". The scripting *Should* wish to do so. Understanding what one is doing is the difference between a scientist and a lab technician. > this effort. U

Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-12 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Eugen Leitl writes: > It seems to be in everyone's interest to allow easy interoperation > between the toolkits. However, in my experience it is a frustrating and > difficult task, even for relatively simple tasks. True. > I believe that a common set of core modules is required. The most Not

Re: [MMTK] [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits (fwd)

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo Mercier
8 0E89 83E5 CA02 http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:58:47 +1030 From: Michael Sorich To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits Hello all, I

Re: [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits

2002-12-12 Thread Michael Banck
Hi again, Ok, so the license is available at http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/nmr/ccp/project/about_ccpn/licensing/licensing.html Unfortunately, this looks quite incompatible to the GPL: (2) Conditions for DISTRIBUTION of SOFTWARE to MEMBERS (2.1) An individual or ORGANISATION must be a MEMBER of

Re: [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits

2002-12-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:33:47AM +, Jules Jacobsen wrote: > I completely agree here, an integrated total platform would be immensely > useful. > I think that the problem is not necessarily all that far from a solution- > currently there is a collaborative computing project for NMR (CCPN) > >

Re: [PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits

2002-12-12 Thread Jules Jacobsen
I completely agree here, an integrated total platform would be immensely useful. I think that the problem is not necessarily all that far from a solution- currently there is a collaborative computing project for NMR (CCPN) http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/nmr/ccp/ The core of this program is the data mod

[PyMOL] improving interoperability between python molecule toolkits

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Sorich
Hello all, I share in Warren's vision of extending PyMol into a "complete platform for crystallography, computational chemistry, modeling, and informatics". However, I believe this can only come about by cooperation and integration with other python based molecule toolkits. MMTK has code which may