Re: [pypy-dev] [mdi...@grulic.org.ar: modifying locals]

2015-10-16 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Marcos, On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Marcos Dione wrote: > as for the hack itself, it works! \o/ thanks very much for the > pointers :) Cheers, No problem. Actually, some Googling finds the very same hack used at various places and explained in blog posts... Armin __

Re: [pypy-dev] "PyPy lets us go where we need to"

2015-10-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Crud...I think I accidentally sent that twice... :O I also x-posted this to /r/programming: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3p128a/from_python_to_go_and_back_again_xposted_from/. On October 16, 2015 3:07:24 PM CDT, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: >You know how it goes: everyone overhypes som

Re: [pypy-dev] "PyPy lets us go where we need to"

2015-10-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
You know how it goes: everyone overhypes something as "perfect", only to realize it's not actually perfect. See: Node.js, Java, Rails, ... PyPy definitely deserves a bit more use in the real world, so I really like this presentation. On October 16, 2015 2:31:32 PM CDT, Tuom Larsen wrote: >Dea

Re: [pypy-dev] "PyPy lets us go where we need to"

2015-10-16 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
You know how it goes: everyone overhypes something as "perfect", only to realize it's not actually perfect. See: Node.js, Java, Rails, ... PyPy definitely deserves a bit more use in the real world, so I really like this presentation. On October 16, 2015 2:31:32 PM CDT, Tuom Larsen wrote: >Dea

[pypy-dev] "PyPy lets us go where we need to"

2015-10-16 Thread Tuom Larsen
Dead list, not sure if this is the right place to share but there is a presentation by a Mozilla dev being currently discussed on Reddit where PyPy received quite some praise: https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/3oztwi/from_python_to_go_and_back_again_mozilla_dev/ Cheers! __

Re: [pypy-dev] [mdi...@grulic.org.ar: modifying locals]

2015-10-16 Thread Marcos Dione
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 09:07:27AM +0200, Marcos Dione wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:32:36AM +0200, Armin Rigo wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Marcos Dione wrote: > > >> so I'll keep investigating :-] > > > > > > maybe context managers add a stack frame/do something with

Re: [pypy-dev] [Fwd: Re: Building pypy from sources: partial build support ?]

2015-10-16 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Matti Picus wrote: > > > On 15/10/15 20:18, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > >> Forwarded Message >> From: David Cournapeau >> To: Yury V. Zaytsev >> Subject: Re: [pypy-dev] Building pypy from sources: partial build >> support ? >> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 20

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 15.11 release is imminent

2015-10-16 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
I claim at least a part of the jitted code change is a fluke. A part is due to disabling of retracing, which never worked properly as far as I know anyway, we'll reenable that somehow at some point. I would not put it in the release announcement. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Matti Picus wrote

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 15.11 release is imminent

2015-10-16 Thread Matti Picus
On 16/10/15 15:23, Phyo Arkar wrote: warmup time improvement of 20% or so at the cost of a minor regression in jitted code speed. 20% Warmup is huge! That will skyrocket in bencmarks. But Minor regression? how minor ? speed.pypy.org (which measures only jit performance without warmup) went

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 15.11 release is imminent

2015-10-16 Thread Phyo Arkar
warmup time improvement of 20% or so at the cost of a minor regression in jitted code speed. 20% Warmup is huge! That will skyrocket in bencmarks. But Minor regression? how minor ? On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Phyo Arkar wrote: > So that will work like 15.11 , 15.5 ? something like that?

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 15.11 release is imminent

2015-10-16 Thread Phyo Arkar
So that will work like 15.11 , 15.5 ? something like that? Predefined release cycle ? And Awesome work Guys!@ On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Matti Picus wrote: > I have started a major release cycle, and consensus was to start a new > numbering scheme, based on yy.mm > > While every release

Re: [pypy-dev] [mdi...@grulic.org.ar: modifying locals]

2015-10-16 Thread Marcos Dione
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:32:36AM +0200, Armin Rigo wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Marcos Dione wrote: > >> so I'll keep investigating :-] > > > > maybe context managers add a stack frame/do something with them > > internally? > > Sorry, you're right. Now it seems from lookin