Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-07 Thread John Camara
Fijal, Whether someone works full time on a project is a separate issue. Being popular helps attract additional resources and PyPy is a project that could use additional resources. How many additional optimizations could PyPy add to get to a similar level of optimization to say the JVM. We are

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-07 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:41 AM, John Camara wrote: > Fijal, > > In the past you have complained about it being hard to make money in open > source. One way to make it easier for you is grow the popularity of PyPy. > So I would think you would at least have some interest in thinking of ways > to ac

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-06 Thread John Camara
Fijal, In the past you have complained about it being hard to make money in open source. One way to make it easier for you is grow the popularity of PyPy. So I would think you would at least have some interest in thinking of ways to accomplish that. I'm not trying to dictate what PyPy should do

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-06 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi John, Thanks for your lengthy analysis. I'm sure that it can be interesting for some to read. Unfortunately, I'm personally an Open Source hobbyist that happens to come from a university background and I'm still attached to some ideas behind it. You say about my hacking STM: "Often the first

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-06 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
2013/2/6 Maciej Fijalkowski > however, trying to convince volunteers that they should do what you > think they should do is not really one of the helpful things you can > be doing. > Except if this brings *new* volunteers to the project :-) -- Amaury Forgeot d'Arc _

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-06 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
Hi John. Let me summarize your long post how I understood it. "You guys should bet everything on platform that both does not need PyPy and expressed no real interest. The reason why is because PyPy is not growing fast enough and we need a niche market. On top of that we should answer a lot of una

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-05 Thread John Camara
Hi Armin, It's even worse I'm asking you to support and I don't even need it. When I posted this thread it was getting rather long and unfortunately I didn't really make all the points I wanted to make. At this point, and even for some time now PyPy has a great foundation but it's use remains l

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-05 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi John, Sorry if I misread you, but you seem to be only saying "it would be nice if the PyPy team worked on the support for rather than ". While this might be true under some point of view, it is not constructive. What would be nice is if *you* seriously proposed to work on , or helped us raise

Re: [pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:01 AM, John Camara wrote: > A couple of days ago I heard about the Parallella [1] project which is an > open hardware platform similar to the Raspberry Pi but with much higher > capabilities. It has a Zynq Z-7010 which has both a dual core ARM A9 (800 > MHz) processor an

[pypy-dev] Parallella open hardware platform

2013-01-31 Thread John Camara
A couple of days ago I heard about the Parallella [1] project which is an open hardware platform similar to the Raspberry Pi but with much higher capabilities. It has a Zynq Z-7010 which has both a dual core ARM A9 (800 MHz) processor and a Artix-7 FPGA, a 16 core Epiphany multicore accelerator, 1