Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Greg Ewing wrote: > If it's okay to use a silly name for the whole > project, why not for part of its infrastructure? because it's difficult enough to do a Python elevator pitch as it is ? (why is a package index so different from things like "documentation" and "source" and "installer" and "bu

Re: [Python-3000] Proposal: No more standard library additions

2006-10-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Greg Ewing schrieb: >> If they also created a new sub-command for build, >> you would have to make your get_sub_command implementation >> return them both. > > If these sub-commands really are independent, > why can't I just add one to a list somewhere? > Then it would be no problem at all for dif

Re: [Python-3000] Proposal: No more standard library additions

2006-10-17 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > If they also created a new sub-command for build, > you would have to make your get_sub_command implementation > return them both. If these sub-commands really are independent, why can't I just add one to a list somewhere? Then it would be no problem at all for different

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Greg Ewing
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for the URL is one > thing. using it to describe an important part of the infrastructure is > another > thing. If it's okay to use a silly name for the whole project, why not for part of its infrastructure? -- Greg

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Janssen
I like the PyPR -- "piper" or "pie-per" -- suggestion. Good sound, reasonable acronym, fairly straightforward pronunciation. Bill ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http:

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Pie/Pi/Py/Pyeshop -- pun intended > > Package index (pi) shop > Python extension/expansion (pye) shop > Python index of extensions (pie) shop > > Take your pick of acronyms, but pie is yummy in about a

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:28:50PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > Pie/Pi/Py/Pyeshop -- pun intended > > Package index (pi) shop > Python extension/expansion (pye) shop > Python index of extensions (pie) shop Peggy - Python eggs repositorY ;) Or just PER. Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Terry Reedy
"Greg Ewing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: >> The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect the >> proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to >> alienate >> people by presenting the hard work of the community under a completely

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Paul Prescod
Perhaps it should be Python Package Repository (PYPR). Or even the Py'd Pypr. Like other package repositories it would sing you a nice song at first and then when the versioning trouble hits you'll feel like you're drowning. Paul Prescod On 10/17/06, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 17, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > I seem to recall Richard Jones saying he pronounces it "pippy", > which I never > could understand based on the spelling. > > So, the biggest problem "PyPI" is that no one can agree on how to

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 05:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I must say I was surprised people found potential confusion between PyPy > and PyPI, though. I'd always pronounced the latter as Py-Pea-Eye (and it > was a tool for finding useful Python packages, so the other meaning of PI > fit, too) I

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Mike Krell
> At some point we're going to run out of all the really well-known Monty > Python sketches, at which point people will either come to their senses, > or we are going to see abominations like open source projects named > "dead bishop" or something. Cf. "crunchy frog", a really cool application con

Re: [Python-3000] Proposal: No more standard library additions

2006-10-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Greg Ewing schrieb: > Not sure exactly what you mean by a "sub-command". > If you mean a subclass of the class that implements > the "build" command, that's far too heavyweight. distutils has a special concept called a "subcommand" (apparently, people creating such packages have an intuition for c

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Charles Cazabon
Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > Cheese Shop seems fine to me (and not just 'cause I came up with it). You > > /need/ a little humor and levity in a software project or it just gets > > boring. > > using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for t

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Barry Warsaw wrote: > Cheese Shop seems fine to me (and not just 'cause I came up with > it). You /need/ a little humor and levity in a software project or > it just gets boring. using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for the URL is one thing. using it to describe an important

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 16, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > Which is really, really, REALLY sad. The "Cheese Shop" name may > reflect the > proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to > alienate > people by presenting the hard w

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/17/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you pronounce PyPI, btw? Is it "pie-pie" or > "pie-pee-eye"? (And don't tell me it's actually > pronounced "pippy" -- acronyms with non-obvious > pronunciations are a minor peeve of mine. People > are going to pronounce it the way they thi

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
Greg Ewing wrote: > Talin wrote: >> Cheeseshop may be overly cute, however it has at least this mnemonic >> benefit is that it suggests a "shop", > > I actually quite like Cheese Shop too, and I'd be > perfectly happy for it to remain. I became reconciled to the name when I realized it could be

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Antoine
> Which is really, really, REALLY sad. The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect > the > proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to alienate > people by presenting the hard work of the community under a completely > silly > name that communicates nothing about what it's about. Isn

Re: [Python-3000] Cheeseshop

2006-10-17 Thread Greg Ewing
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > Perhaps my recall of history is lacking, but I'd say PyPy is too easily > confused with PyPI; wasn't PyPI around first, at least as a moniker? That may be so. But I like PyPy as a name for what it is better than PyPI, so if one of them had to go, I wouldn't want to lo