Re: [Python-3000] Need help completing ABC pep

2007-04-19 Thread Talin
Brett Cannon wrote: > On 4/19/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 4/19/07, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I really don't like the name of Finite. When I read the name before >>> knowing what it represented I really had no clue what it represented. >>> In hindsight it

Re: [Python-3000] Need help completing ABC pep

2007-04-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On 4/19/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/19/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've started a PEP on Abstract Base Classes (ABCs), PEP 3119: > > > > > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3119/ > >

Re: [Python-3000] Need help completing ABC pep

2007-04-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 4/19/07, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've started a PEP on Abstract Base Classes (ABCs), PEP 3119: > > > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3119/ > > > > While I'm not ready yet to answer tough questions about this c

Re: [Python-3000] Need help completing ABC pep

2007-04-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On 4/19/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started a PEP on Abstract Base Classes (ABCs), PEP 3119: > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3119/ > > While I'm not ready yet to answer tough questions about this compared > to alternative proposals, I *am* ready for feedback on

[Python-3000] Need help completing ABC pep

2007-04-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
I've started a PEP on Abstract Base Classes (ABCs), PEP 3119: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3119/ While I'm not ready yet to answer tough questions about this compared to alternative proposals, I *am* ready for feedback on the various open issues sprinkled throughout the current text, es

Re: [Python-3000] Fixing super anyone?

2007-04-19 Thread Greg Ewing
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On 4/18/07, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'd rather see syntactic support for making a >> normal inherited method call without danger of >> using the wrong class, e.g. if you change a >> base class but forget to update inherited calls >> to match. > > You will

Re: [Python-3000] Fixing super anyone?

2007-04-19 Thread Jim Jewett
On 4/18/07, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd rather see syntactic support for making a > normal inherited method call without danger of > using the wrong class, e.g. if you change a > base class but forget to update inherited calls > to match. Could you give an example? My first three

Re: [Python-3000] string module trimming

2007-04-19 Thread Jim Jewett
On 4/19/07, Jason Orendorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/18/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, a table of alphabets that's saner than string.letters > is pret

Re: [Python-3000] string module trimming

2007-04-19 Thread Jim Jewett
On 4/19/07, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jeffrey Yasskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 4/18/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Agreed. But th

Re: [Python-3000] string module trimming

2007-04-19 Thread Jason Orendorff
On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/18/07, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/18/07, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Today, string.letters works most easily with ASCII supersets, and is > > > effectively limited to 8-bit encodings. Once everythi

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] python3k change to slicing

2007-04-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
[+python-3000; followups please remove python-dev] -1 While this may be theoretically preferable, I believe that in practice changing this would be a major pain for very little gain. I don't recall ever finding a bug related to this feature, and I believe it's occasionally useful. Here's somethi

Re: [Python-3000] string module trimming

2007-04-19 Thread Josiah Carlson
"Jeffrey Yasskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/18/07, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jeffrey Yasskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I missed the beginning of this discussion, so sorry if you've already > > > covered this. Are you saying that in your app, just because I've s

Re: [Python-3000] string module trimming

2007-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Yasskin
On 4/18/07, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jeffrey Yasskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I missed the beginning of this discussion, so sorry if you've already > > covered this. Are you saying that in your app, just because I've set > > the en_US locale, I won't be able to type "