Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-25 Thread Greg Ewing
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > I'm afraid laptop monitors aren't enlarged so easily, and I find myself on a > laptop most of the time these days. Eyephones. Virtual 360-degree wraparound displays. Greg ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-25 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Saturday 25 March 2006 08:36, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take the "glass half full" approach -- just think how big a monitor you'll > get to see all that information on the screen! I'm afraid laptop monitors aren't enlarged so easily, and I find myself on a laptop most of the

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/03/06 Guido van Rossum said: > Actually, a 120-wide window is mostly a bigger waste of space since > *most* code easily fits in 80 columns (remember, average line length > is 30!). Folding the occasional long line is much better use of > resources than stretching the window to accommodate it

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-25 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/25/06, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/24/06, Fred L. Drake, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2006 11:49, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Don't forget those of us who are now pushing for 120 character wide > > > source fil

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 3/24/06, Fred L. Drake, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 11:49, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget those of us who are now pushing for 120 character wide source > files! That would be bad.  Do you realize just how small fonts would have to get tolet us s

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Ewing
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Please tell me this whole thread is a cruel joke. I know it isn't going to happen for Python, but I seriously believe that all-tabs is a better technical approach to program indentation, for a variety of reasons. The only arguments against it that I can see are legacy-re

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Ewing
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > That would be bad. Do you realize just how small fonts would have to get to > let us still have as many editor windows on-screen? I'm still waiting for desk-sized displays with stylus for input. Let's make the desktop metaphor more than a metaphor! Greg

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/23/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we standardised on all-tabs, people could set their > editors to display indentation however they wanted, and > there would be no need to argue about how many spaces > should be dancing at the head of a code line. [and much followup] Please t

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Adam DePrince
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 12:11 -0500, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > On Friday 24 March 2006 11:49, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't forget those of us who are now pushing for 120 character wide source > > files! > > That would be bad. Do you realize just how small fonts would have t

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Friday 24 March 2006 11:49, Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget those of us who are now pushing for 120 character wide source > files! That would be bad. Do you realize just how small fonts would have to get to let us still have as many editor windows on-screen? I don't

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 11:49 -0500, Kevin Jacobs wrote: > On 3/24/06, Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like 8-space indents would then start to argue vociferously > about how many > levels of indentation are acceptable given an > 80-character-wide source

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 3/24/06, Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: like 8-space indents would then start to argue vociferously about how manylevels of indentation are acceptable given an 80-character-wide source file.Don't forget those of us who are now pushing for 120 character wide source files! -Kevin _

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Charles Cazabon
Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > That won't go away for me (Google's settings default to TWO-space indents > > :-( ) but I agree with the 4-space indent -- eventually. > > If we standardised on all-tabs, people could set their editors to display > indentation

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 19:41 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > That won't go away for me (Google's settings default to TWO-space > > indents :-( ) but I agree with the 4-space indent -- eventually. > > If we standardised on all-tabs, people could set their > editors to displ

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide

2006-03-23 Thread Greg Ewing
Guido van Rossum wrote: > That won't go away for me (Google's settings default to TWO-space > indents :-( ) but I agree with the 4-space indent -- eventually. If we standardised on all-tabs, people could set their editors to display indentation however they wanted, and there would be no need to a

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide (was: C API changes?)

2006-03-22 Thread Tim Peters
[Brett Cannon] |>> Yes, please! I think for the Py3K codebase we should at least require >> code meet the style guide. We are all guilty of having ignored it at >> some point, I'm not :-) > ... [Nick Coghlan] > I would love it if PEP 3007 standardised on 4-space indents, the same as the > stan

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide (was: C API changes?)

2006-03-22 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/22/06, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would love it if PEP 3007 standardised on 4-space indents, the same as the > standard for Python code in the standard lib. I'd love it even more if > reindent.py cleaned up C whitespace as well as Python whitespace. These days, > getting any C

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide (was: C API changes?)

2006-03-22 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 3/22/06, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would love it if PEP 3007 standardised on 4-space indents, the same as the > standard for Python code in the standard lib. I'd love it even more if > reindent.py cleaned up C whitespace as well as Python whitespace. Wait! I thought we were

Re: [Python-3000] C style guide (was: C API changes?)

2006-03-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
Brett Cannon wrote: > On 3/22/06, Thomas Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [SNIP] >> Speaking of PEP-3007, any ideas on how different from PEP-0007 it'll be? >> tabs or four-space indents? How rigourously will it be applied? (I honestly >> don't have any problems with PEP-0007 except for its int