Fredrik Lundh schrieb:
> I don't thing Ping had URL hacking in mind when he wrote "obvious,
> direct way". even a heavily restian site like del.icio.us has an URL
> manipulation interface available *inside* the browser window. maybe
> we should steal their approach?
This brings up the question
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>> Right now, the site doesn't provide an obvious, direct way to get
>> to a package *even if you know the exact name of the package*.
>
> As people pointed out on the SIG list: sure it does. If you
> know the package name is "ctypes", you enter into your browser
>
> http:
Fredrik Lundh schrieb:
> (why is a package index so different from things like "documentation"
> and "source" and "installer" and "bug tracker" and "conference", by the
> way? I'm sure we could get tons of cute name proposals if we asked the
> community...)
And, indeed, the Python conference w
Ka-Ping Yee schrieb:
> I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but i think the site could
> really use improved search and navigation. It used to have a search
> form that was (in my opinion) broken enough to be misleading, and now
> the search form appears to be gone. The Google-based form feels
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 03:02, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> Time to learn the rules of English pronunciation, then. This may help:
>
> http://mipmip.org/tidbits/pronunciation.shtml
That's nice. :) I definately find myself predisposed to pronounce the "Py"
as "pie", and I find that hard to get
Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
> But that's just about the name. The original motivation for my
> post about Cheeseshop, is that it would be nice if it were easier
> to find packages in it. The issue of search/navigation/access
> seems to have been forgotten in this flurry about the name.
The package serve
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Talin wrote:
> Seriously, though - this is actually my way of saying that this thread
> has gone too long...what are we hoping to accomplish here? Are you
> really going to re-name PyPI or cheeseshop or whatever you want to call
> it, or are folks just trying to score points? E
Terry Reedy wrote:
> Pie/Pi/Py/Pyeshop -- pun intended
'PyeShoppe' brings back fond Renaissance Faire memories :)
-- Talin
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Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 05:00, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> > I must say I was surprised people found potential confusion between PyPy
> > and PyPI, though. I'd always pronounced the latter as Py-Pea-Eye (and it
> > was a tool for finding useful Python packages, so t
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Greg Ewing wrote:
>
>> If it's okay to use a silly name for the whole
>> project, why not for part of its infrastructure?
>
> because it's difficult enough to do a Python elevator pitch as it is ?
>
> (why is a package index so different from things like "documentation"
>
Greg Ewing wrote:
> If it's okay to use a silly name for the whole
> project, why not for part of its infrastructure?
because it's difficult enough to do a Python elevator pitch as it is ?
(why is a package index so different from things like "documentation"
and "source" and "installer" and "bu
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for the URL is one
> thing. using it to describe an important part of the infrastructure is
> another
> thing.
If it's okay to use a silly name for the whole
project, why not for part of its infrastructure?
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I like the PyPR -- "piper" or "pie-per" -- suggestion. Good sound,
reasonable acronym, fairly straightforward pronunciation.
Bill
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On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> Pie/Pi/Py/Pyeshop -- pun intended
>
> Package index (pi) shop
> Python extension/expansion (pye) shop
> Python index of extensions (pie) shop
>
> Take your pick of acronyms, but pie is yummy in about a
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:28:50PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> Pie/Pi/Py/Pyeshop -- pun intended
>
> Package index (pi) shop
> Python extension/expansion (pye) shop
> Python index of extensions (pie) shop
Peggy - Python eggs repositorY ;) Or just PER.
Oleg.
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> Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
>> The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect the
>> proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to
>> alienate
>> people by presenting the hard work of the community under a completely
Perhaps it should be Python Package Repository (PYPR).
Or even the Py'd Pypr.
Like other package repositories it would sing you a nice song at first
and then when the versioning trouble hits you'll feel like you're
drowning.
Paul Prescod
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On Oct 17, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> I seem to recall Richard Jones saying he pronounces it "pippy",
> which I never
> could understand based on the spelling.
>
> So, the biggest problem "PyPI" is that no one can agree on how to
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 05:00, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> I must say I was surprised people found potential confusion between PyPy
> and PyPI, though. I'd always pronounced the latter as Py-Pea-Eye (and it
> was a tool for finding useful Python packages, so the other meaning of PI
> fit, too)
I
> At some point we're going to run out of all the really well-known Monty
> Python sketches, at which point people will either come to their senses,
> or we are going to see abominations like open source projects named
> "dead bishop" or something.
Cf. "crunchy frog", a really cool application con
Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
> > Cheese Shop seems fine to me (and not just 'cause I came up with it). You
> > /need/ a little humor and levity in a software project or it just gets
> > boring.
>
> using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for t
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Cheese Shop seems fine to me (and not just 'cause I came up with
> it). You /need/ a little humor and levity in a software project or
> it just gets boring.
using a "silly name" for the project, software, and even for the URL is one
thing. using it to describe an important
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On Oct 16, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> Which is really, really, REALLY sad. The "Cheese Shop" name may
> reflect the
> proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to
> alienate
> people by presenting the hard w
On 10/17/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you pronounce PyPI, btw? Is it "pie-pie" or
> "pie-pee-eye"? (And don't tell me it's actually
> pronounced "pippy" -- acronyms with non-obvious
> pronunciations are a minor peeve of mine. People
> are going to pronounce it the way they thi
Greg Ewing wrote:
> Talin wrote:
>> Cheeseshop may be overly cute, however it has at least this mnemonic
>> benefit is that it suggests a "shop",
>
> I actually quite like Cheese Shop too, and I'd be
> perfectly happy for it to remain.
I became reconciled to the name when I realized it could be
> Which is really, really, REALLY sad. The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect
> the
> proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to alienate
> people by presenting the hard work of the community under a completely
> silly
> name that communicates nothing about what it's about.
Isn
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> Perhaps my recall of history is lacking, but I'd say PyPy is too easily
> confused with PyPI; wasn't PyPI around first, at least as a moniker?
That may be so. But I like PyPy as a name for what it
is better than PyPI, so if one of them had to go, I
wouldn't want to lo
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> (the "Python Package Index" says exactly what it is
fwiw, "package index" is the name used on the python.org home page.
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On Tuesday 17 October 2006 01:48, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Well, I don't think it's any worse than CPAN, which
> doesn't mean anything unless you already know what
The fact that it doesn't mean anything could just as easily be a point in
favor; it isn't anything else, either.
> As to the alternati
Talin wrote:
> Greg Ewing wrote:
>
>>I've been trying to
>>make something out of SPAM -- Superlative Python
>>Archive of Modules?
>
> Good luck getting that one through people's email filters :)
Well, I figure that real spam isn't going to announce
itself as such, so we should be all right. Besi
Greg Ewing wrote:
> Anyone have any other ideas? I've been trying to
> make something out of SPAM -- Superlative Python
> Archive of Modules?
Good luck getting that one through people's email filters :)
Cheeseshop may be overly cute, however it has at least this mnemonic
benefit is that it sugge
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect the
> proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it's a sure way to alienate
> people by presenting the hard work of the community under a completely silly
> name that communicates nothing about what it's about.
Well, I don't thi
Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Talin wrote:
>> Agreed - I don't have any problems with Cheeseshop as it exists today.
>
> I think a good search feature is essential -- a big code repository
> is only as useful to the degree that its contents are accessible.
>
> I don't want to hurt any
On Monday 16 October 2006 21:06, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> However I think that many (most?) links on the web have started to
> migrate to http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
Which is really, really, REALLY sad. The "Cheese Shop" name may reflect the
proper cultural bias toward Monty Python, but it'
On 10/16/06, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Talin wrote:
> > Agreed - I don't have any problems with Cheeseshop as it exists today.
>
> I think a good search feature is essential -- a big code repository
> is only as useful to the degree that its contents are accessib
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Talin wrote:
> Agreed - I don't have any problems with Cheeseshop as it exists today.
I think a good search feature is essential -- a big code repository
is only as useful to the degree that its contents are accessible.
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but i think the
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