Re: [Python-3000] Efficient LC's which don't leak the iteration variables (was Re: Py3k release schedule worries)

2006-12-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
Greg Ewing wrote: > Jim Jewett wrote: > >> Knowing which i's to rename strikes *me* as tricky, > > It shouldn't be too hard if you approach it the > right way. One way would be to temporarily change > the symbol table entry for the loop var when > compiling the loop body and any nested functions

Re: [Python-3000] A couple of PEP 3101 related questions

2006-12-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
Talin wrote: > 1) What's the process for editing a PEP after it has been reviewed, but > before its been accepted? > > I've recently had some requests to make some edits to the PEP. However, > I don't want to do these in "stealth mode", like a congressional staffer > who inserts changes into a

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 12/20/06, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/18/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, so be it. Let this be a pronouncement -- the only stdlib reorg > > we're doing will be (a) deleting silly old stuff; (b) rename modules > > that don't conform to the current modul

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Guido van Rossum wrote: > I personally find ElementTree.py a worse offender than simple_server.py if you want consistency, you shouldn't change the style guide quite as often ;-) (when ET was written, the official style guide said "Module names can be either MixedCase or lowercase. /.../ Modu

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Brett Cannon a écrit : > But compile (along wth exec, but I don't think you wanted to move that) > are just plain different. Dynamic code execution is its own thing that > I do not directly associate with the specifics of the interpreter. > Maybe a module named 'dynamic' or 'execution'? > bt

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 12/21/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not using underscores in package names makes a certain sense, but > not allowing them in module names strikes me as misguided. what's > the rationale? See, I don't remember. :-) -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guid

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Mike Orr
On 12/21/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/21/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > not using underscores in package names makes a certain sense, but > > not allowing them in module names strikes me as misguided. what's > > the rationale? > > See, I don't remember.

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Mike Orr wrote: > On 12/21/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 12/21/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> not using underscores in package names makes a certain sense, but >>> not allowing the

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k release schedule worries

2006-12-21 Thread Brett Cannon
On 12/21/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/20/06, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/18/06, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, so be it. Let this be a pronouncement -- the only stdlib reorg > > > we're doing will be (a) deleting silly old stuf

[Python-3000] Any platforms we want to drop for Py3K?

2006-12-21 Thread Brett Cannon
I am starting to compile the list of modules to suggest for removal and I noticed that there are still a large number for platform-specific directories in Lib/. I was wondering if we should consider some platforms for removal. The reason I am not sending this to python-dev is I figure we could p

Re: [Python-3000] Any platforms we want to drop for Py3K?

2006-12-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
Actually you *should* post this to python-dev. Let's be aggressive. All of those look like we should've stopped supporting them years ago... :-) On 12/21/06, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am starting to compile the list of modules to suggest for removal and I > noticed that there are

Re: [Python-3000] Any platforms we want to drop for Py3K?

2006-12-21 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 22 Dec, 2006, at 3:09, Brett Cannon wrote: I am starting to compile the list of modules to suggest for removal and I noticed that there are still a large number for platform-specific directories in Lib/. I was wondering if we should consider some platforms for removal. The reason I am