Re: [Python-3000] Py3k code freeze imminent; 3.0a2 release Friday

2007-12-06 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: > The buildbot is green for Solaris also, so I think we're in good > shape. I don't see any green buildbots for Windows though, but Windows > is always a flakey situation; Christian, what's your assessment? test_mailbox is still failing with lots of errors. The module needs

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Quentin Gallet-Gilles
I've been following the lists and the bug tracker for some months and am beginning to contribute fairly trivial patches. I haven't done much yet, but I'm interested in the stdlib reorg. If rookies are welcomed, please count me in :-) Quentin On Dec 6, 2007 5:14 AM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 6 Dec, 2007, at 5:14, Brett Cannon wrote: > As Guido stated in a recent email, the stdlib reorg is going to be the > next big thing in Py3K-Land after a2 goes out the door. And since I > stuck my head out and wrote PEP 3108 and tried to spear-head a reorg > several times before, I am the de-f

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k code freeze imminent; 3.0a2 release Friday

2007-12-06 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Christian Heimes wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > The buildbot is green for Solaris also, so I think we're in good > > shape. I don't see any green buildbots for Windows though, but Windows > > is always a flakey situation; Christian, what's your assessment? > > test_mailbox is still failing wi

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Facundo Batista
2007/12/6, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The plan is to get this done by summer. While that might seem like a > long ways off, this is open source, so everyone's time is restricted. Note that you could propose an sprint in PyCon 2008 for this... > of my PEPs end up being heavily cut back

[Python-3000] PEP 3108 - recommendations for PyPI transition

2007-12-06 Thread skip
I won't argue that getopt should be left in for Python 3, however it is still widely used. I generally use it for simple tasks. (My brain must have a getopt usage template in there somewhere. I still find it much easier to whip out getopt usage. I always have to consult the optparse docs.) It

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Georg Brandl
Brett Cannon schrieb: > As Guido stated in a recent email, the stdlib reorg is going to be the > next big thing in Py3K-Land after a2 goes out the door. And since I > stuck my head out and wrote PEP 3108 and tried to spear-head a reorg > several times before, I am the de-facto junior dictator in c

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k code freeze imminent; 3.0a2 release Friday

2007-12-06 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: > I see a few tests leaking; in particular test_ssl (1522 refs leaned > per run!) and test_urllib2_localnet (3 per run). Anyone interested in > researching these feel free to do so; just upload a patch and file a > bug if you've squashed the leaks (or some). I see the refer

Re: [Python-3000] PEP 3108 - recommendations for PyPI transition

2007-12-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
I don't know who proposed to rip out getopt. I definitely want to keep it. It has plenty of uses where optparse would be overkill. --Guido On Dec 6, 2007 5:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I won't argue that getopt should be left in for Python 3, however it is > still widely used. I genera

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Py3k code freeze imminent; 3.0a2 release Friday

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Janssen
> I see a few tests leaking; in particular test_ssl (1522 refs leaned > per run!) I'm looking at this, but I haven't found anything in the last week... Bill ___ Python-3000 mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: [Python-3000] Py3k code freeze imminent; 3.0a2 release Friday

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Janssen
> The test_ssl tests are only leaking with the -unetwork option. On my > Ubuntu box they are leaking 1536 references per turn. For heaven's sake > I can't remember how I found the leaking code lines the last time. > Py_DUMP_REFS dumps too many information. I found the leak the last time by narrowi

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Brett Cannon wrote: > So if this sounds interesting to you and you want to help me, let me know. This sounds interesting to me and I want to help you. ;) Cheers, Dirkjan ___ Python-3000 mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Dec 6, 2007 5:56 AM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007/12/6, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The plan is to get this done by summer. While that might seem like a > > long ways off, this is open source, so everyone's time is restricted. > > Note that you could propose an

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Hasan Diwan
> Brett Cannon wrote: > > let me know. Let me know what needs to be done. -- Cheers, Hasan Diwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Python-3000 mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Alexandre Vassalotti
On Dec 6, 2007 2:02 PM, Hasan Diwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brett Cannon wrote: > > > let me know. > > Let me know what needs to be done. See PEP-3108: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/ -- Alexandre ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000

Re: [Python-3000] PEP 3108 - recommendations for PyPI transition

2007-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Dec 6, 2007 5:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I won't argue that getopt should be left in for Python 3, however it is > still widely used. I generally use it for simple tasks. (My brain must > have a getopt usage template in there somewhere. I still find it much > easier to whip out ge

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Dec 6, 2007 11:05 AM, Alexandre Vassalotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 2007 2:02 PM, Hasan Diwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > let me know. > > > > Let me know what needs to be done. > > See PEP-3108: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/ That is act

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Paul Moore
On 06/12/2007, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if this sounds interesting to you and you want to help me, let me know. I'm willing to help, but short of free time (you've seen the effects of this from me before, Brett :-)). I'd be happy to look at Windows compatibility issues (Python

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon wrote: > So if this sounds interesting to you and you want to help me, let me know. Count me in! I can assist with C coding, 2t3 fixers and some find/grep/sed/awk magic. I can also help you with reviewing and applying patches. Christian ___

Re: [Python-3000] Who wants to help me reorganize the stdlib?

2007-12-06 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hi, > Plus I am only a single person and I know that my opinion does not > always mesh with everyone else out there (there is a reason why most > of my PEPs end up being heavily cut back =) . So I am asking anyone > who is interested in helping me out with this to reply to this thread. I might

[Python-3000] Two problems in r30a2

2007-12-06 Thread Christian Heimes
I found two problems with r30a2 on Windows: 1) The module doc server is crashing on Windows. I can't reproduce the problem on Linux. c:\Python30>python Tools\Scripts\pydocgui.pyw Exception happened during processin

Re: [Python-3000] Two problems in r30a2

2007-12-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
I'll add these to the online release notes; I prefer not to change the tag just for that. On Dec 6, 2007 2:26 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found two problems with r30a2 on Windows: > > 1) The module doc server is crashing on Windows. I can't reproduce the > problem on Linux.

[Python-3000] markupbase

2007-12-06 Thread Fred Drake
I'm at fault for this one. This module was never intended to provide public API, so I'm +1 on changing the name to _markupbase, as suggested in PEP 3108: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/#no-public-documented-interface Is there any reason not to change this name? If not, I'll go ahe

Re: [Python-3000] markupbase

2007-12-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On Dec 6, 2007 8:52 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm at fault for this one. > > This module was never intended to provide public API, so I'm +1 on > changing the name to _markupbase, as suggested in PEP 3108: > >http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/#no-public-documented-interf