Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: bsddb

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Invariably, when someone goes and removes a module, someone else is > going to complain, "but I used feature X, not having feature X will > break my code." We, as maintainers can then say, "if you cared, > maintain it."

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Josiah Carlson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Invariably, when someone goes and removes a module, someone else is >> going to complain, "but I used feature X, not having feature X will >

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Fred Drake
On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is included in the documentation (plus the dictionary interface that it supports) shouldn't be terribly difficul

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
Fred Drake wrote: On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is included in the documentation (plus the dictionary interface that it supports) shouldn't b

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: >> >> It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being >> made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is >> included in the documenta

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: > And downloading pybsddb and installing really shouldn't be all that > difficult :) It shouldn't be, but lots of "enterprise"[1] environments will require qualifying the "new" package according to corporate standards. I won't argue that this is a sufficient reason to kee

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin v. Löwis wrote: | bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into | 3k. I somewhat doubt that this gets resolved before the release, so | bsddb users might need to skip 3.0. Working on the 3.0 port just now. 03:40 in the

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett Cannon wrote: | On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: |>>> bsddb is in a ver

[Python-3000] Extension modules moving to py3k (was: No beta2 tonight)

2008-07-18 Thread Mark Hammond
Jesus wrote: > I'm still loooking for a *GOOD* python2->python3 conversion guide for C > language modules. I was chatting with Raymond about that recently, and we agreed that this will be a major challenge for extension authors moving forward. Strategies for dealing with your .py code are becomi

[Python-3000] Help replacing Py_FindMethod

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good night everybody!. Working on the Python3.0 support for bsddb I see that "Py_FindMethod" was just removed in Python last beta. Most uses of "Py_FindMethod" can be resolved as (as far as I know): 1. Delete the getattr routine. 2. Put a "0" in th

[Python-3000] Int and Long unification (was Re: Help replacing Py_FindMethod)

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jesus Cea wrote: | Good night everybody!. | | Working on the Python3.0 support for bsddb I see that "Py_FindMethod" | was just removed in Python last beta. Nevermind. I just reviewed the recent changes in the SVN and I can see your patches for bsddb.