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-1 on error and that this is documented somewhere in the beginning. I also
presume that functions that return values thru passed in pointers and that are
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To me, Alexander's example
>>> calendar.isleap("%d")
False
is a buggy result. So I would reclassify the issue.
The rationale for not checking input types is that bad types result in an
error, but that does not happen here due t
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The input to itertools.product must be a finite sequence of finite iterables.
itertools.count(startvalue) produces an infinite sequence of ints (which are
not iterable). Passing the latter to the former causes the latter to run until
memory is exhausted. You
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I think the title is slightly misleading. As I read the patch, the issue is
that PyArg_ParseTupleAndKeywords requires that string args to C functions be
valid Unicode strings (and that it does this by trying to encode to utf-8).
Your patch subverts this by
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Pardon my ignorance, but given that code.co_filename is a string attribute
given as a string, which is to say, unicode in 3.x, I do not see what
filesystem encodings, or any other encoding to bytes should really have to do
with the attribute. I actually
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Bruce, what Ned suggests is what I intended with my IDLE-list message, and in
accord with usual tracker practice. Issues often apply to multiple versions and
thereby require multiple patches and commits. I know you are relatively new at
this and very much
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dstanek> Would it be better to file bugs against buggy implementations instead
of changing Python's implementation to be more lenient?
No. Another app running on the same domain that knows nothing about RFC 2109
(and why should it?) shouldn'
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2.7 (and possibly 3.x). It would be good to confirm this.
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>I am not sure whether I should attach a zip/tar file with both the attachments
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Uploading separate files with .py, .diff extensions that can be viewed in
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Various comments:
I usually expect things in stdlib to be usefully importable. Idlelib is clearly
an exception.
>> Also many people don't expect to find any code in a file named
>> __init__.py (and most of the time I agree with this).
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I think questions like this are better answered on python-list or even pydev.
In the absence of an observed problem, I would presume it is ok.
This question should be answered in the C-API doc. If it is not, you could
reopen this as a doc issue
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Shutdown has been a 'forever' problem ;-). It would seem sensible to me to have
a fixed end-of-shutdown sequence for essential modules.
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In the absence of doc references in this and #10211 that would *clearly* settle
the bug vs. feature issue, it strikes me as a bit murky. So I am inclined to
agree with MAL that failure to achieve the stated, documented purpose is a bug.
I strongly suspect
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I have not tried your testcase yet, but agree that issue 4 sounds pretty bad. I
guess what you are looking for is either a patch to tkinter that solves at
least one of the listed problems (even if only a workaround for a TK bug) or a
determination that
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I ran testcase.py with stock 3.1.2 on winxp (under IDLE).
Changes needed (one place each) were
Tkinter -> tkinter
print x -> print(x)
<> -> !=# <> is long since deprecated!
I get 3 line box windowing 10 lines. If I enlarge window,
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Éric, go ahead and consolidate to one issue if you can get to it.
Do the other issues shows problems with 3.1 or 3.2 also? I wonder because I
have never seen the box in the posted .png and wonder if that is a new
'feature' with 2.7 and possibly 3.
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On initialization: the json doc has 6 examples. Each starts with 'import json'
so each is independent. However, I agree that doing the same for turtle
examples would be a bit much. On the other hand, I think
24.5.3. *Methods of RawTurtle/
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GREGOR, I think we need your help to answer a few of these.
Subissues from my opening post not resolved in rev85732
"version of python installed with Tk support.": cap 'python' to 'Python'
Is there any st
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'''
MAPPING = {'urllib': [
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['URLOpener', 'FancyURLOpener', 'urlretrieve',
''
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For me, with a standard Python install, 'use tix' would be a good answer. After
thanking the respondent, you could try answering 'why' ('I am using a custom
build.'). Just remember that python-list and mirrors are like the Wi
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
In #10050 you suggest deprecating *URLopener (not *Opener, the misspelling also
in fix_urllib.py #10286) and other stuff. Which do you actually prefer, upgrade
or degrade?
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Committed to Py3K in r86146, with added docs and a larger list of transcodable
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I am closing this as some combination of wrong, inapplicable, out-of-date, and
postponed.
1. In 3.1, ssl *is* documented as optional in the sense of dependent on an
external library. "This module uses the OpenSSL library. It is available on all
m
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In 3.1.2, range handles large numbers.
>>> list(range(10, 500, 100))
[10, 110, 210, 310, 410]
# those are all billions
This means that the 'equivalent' code in the doc will wor
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Robert, I interpret your response to Hirokazu to mean that his suggestion
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+1 from me on a table at the top of the functions page.
I am assuming that the markup will induce hotlinks.
The main problem I see is the need to hand rewrite when another function is
added
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The sentence should be deleted. Print is *not* used in any of the previous
examples. This is the first mention of print() in the chapter and is
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1. Rather than add a blank line to the output, the input should have the
newline suppressed with \ (which has been done in previous examples).
print("""\
2. It is rather difficult to see that there is no blank at the end (highlight
wit
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As near as I can tell, since && and || are logical rather than bitwise, and
since the variable reference 'quotetabs' has no side effect, you are correct.
Have you run the unittest on a patched build?
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With 3.2 on WinXP, I get no error report in interactive mode,
with either IDLE or plain interpreter, nor from 'python file' in Command Prompt
window. But now with the print added to what I ran before, I see no print
output, and I see that IDLE is
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People occasionally ask on python-list about the following error message when
trying to create a class:
> TypeError: Error when calling the metaclass bases
> module.__init__() takes at most 2 arguments (3 given)
It is a bit cryptic. It is also acci
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2.5 and 2.6 are only open for security issues.
I am guessing that 2.7, 3.1, and 3.3 are affected.
I cannot test as I only have Windows currently.
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My haphazard sample gave 8 without, 5 with.
I suspect trailing dot is analogy with lists:
1. something.
2. something else.
2.1. detail of else
2.2. more detail
Books without generally have extra space instead of '.'.
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"Methods defined within a class may reference..."
would make the tutorial correct without introducing the complication of methods
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Eugene has started work on AST optimizer in #11549
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A couple of somewhat related issues:
#10399 AST Optimization: inlining of function calls
#1346238 A constant folding optimization pass for the AST
Obviously, ast optimizers should work together and not duplicate.
Nice to see increased attention
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#11549 Rewrite peephole to work on AST
includes constant folding. I have not compared.
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2.6 is only open for security issues, so any verification should use later
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There is no end of helpful articles at Wikipedia and elsewhere. Wikipedia
articles are especially easy to find with a special search in some browsers and
on the site. In my experience on python-list, for instance, people have much
more problem with floats
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Since this is not a doc issue, doc people would not especially see it. That
aside...
What is *your* review. Does it satisfy you?
Answer on #7198 if you want.
And please be a bit patient as people are learning the new hg system
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Whoops. That should be 'Cannot subclass a module' or 'Cannot subclass module
%s' % modulename. Types.ModuleType can indeed by subclassed.
I agree that this is not a pressing issue, but it will at least provide an
answer to anyone searc
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You misunderstood my last response. The first paragraph *dismisses* the case of
temporary print (raised by Charles-Axle) as out of scope for doctests and hence
this issue. The next ones addresses *your* case of code *permanently* intended
to print and raise
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As Victor noted, this issue is essentially a duplicate of #3080 (and others)
and now #11619 and needs no independent action apart from the latter. Since the
discussion with ingemar seems finished, I am now closing.
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Python 3.2, WinXP, IDLE edit window, F5 Run:
'Processing ...' appears immediately, 'Done' 3 sec later.
The only difference between printtest2/3 is where 'Done' appears.
Behavior is same when pasting into interactive interpreter
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I completely agree that file/socket output should be left alone. Flushing char
by char to either is a bit insane. The two interactive to screen use cases I
can think of are text progress meters, mentioned by Anatoly, such as :
Working (1 dot printed at
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> It is not uncommon that developers provide web applications
to the public in which the HTTP response headers are not filtered for
newlines but are controlled by the user.
Really? Which applications, and which response headers?
> Therefore, I sugg
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Python's ABCs (PEAK-Rules supports it for Python 2.6), but it requires caching,
and a way of handling ambiguities. In PEAK-Rules' case, unregistering is
simply ignored, and
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While I would not be happy to use class X above, the 3.2 manual explicitly says
"There are no implied relationships among the comparison operators. The truth
of x==y does not imply that x!=y is
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I agree with Ray. This is essentially a feature request which you say has
already been implemented in Py 3 but which cannot go into Py2.7. Only fixes for
bugs (discrepancies between doc and behavior) can go into 2.7. I suspect 2.6
and before acted the same
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If the docs literally use "X.Y", so that that can be grepped, then attaching a
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l=[1,3,2]
l.sort(cmp=lambda x,y:y-x, key=lambda x: x)
print(l)
With CPython 2.7 this
1) could raise an exception like TypeError: conflicting arguments passed;
2) could ignore cmp= and print [1,2,3] on the basis that the new should
override the old;
3) does
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On pydev, Mathew Woodcraft says the actual rule is
4) Neither 'wins': cmp is applied to the output of key.
which is consistent with my experiment also.
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The 2.7 doc actually says that the two arguments to cmp are list items, rather
than list items or keys "cmp specifies a custom comparison function of two
arguments (list items)". And this "In general, the key and reverse conversion
processes
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Elvis, I agree that the masking is not nice. To call it a tracker bug (as
opposed to design bug), you need to show that the behavior is different from
what is documented. Of course, This issue illustrates why one should have unit
tests that try to test each
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I verified this for 3.2 (and IDLE) with
import sys, tkinter
"ttk" in dir(sys.modules['tkinter']) # False
import tkinter.ttk
"ttk" in dir(sys.modules['tkinter']) # True
reload
import sys,imp
imp.load_mo
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openSUSE are about to be joined into the Canterbury distribution.
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I strongly agree. This would make it easy to see modules of 3rd party packages
loaded, for instance, in site-packages. Once pack/__init__.py is opened,
selecting File/Open in its edit window displays the package directory.
Dotted names work, but must be
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The help(linecache) Description is more specific as to the intention (based on
traceback usage):
"This is intended to read lines from modules imported -- hence if a filename is
not found, it will look down the module search path for a file by that name.
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I would make the same guess about 'winner calculation'. I am surprised that the
class statement does not result in the same calculation (why else would
type_new do it). Perhaps __build_class__ (which I have not read) should either
call type_ne
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Two related proposals.
1. Add a warning similar to the one for the dis module. As modified:
"CPython implementation detail: The ast definition is specific to the CPython
interpreter! Ast nodes may be added, removed, or changed between versions. Use
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Modify entry slightly to
String constant with version number of the abstract grammar file.
3.1: '67616'; 3.2: '82163'; 3.3: 'x'
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[Question from python-list]
Would a C version only be for 3.3 or backported to 3.2 and 2.7. The rationale
for backport to 2.7 is that .cmp_to_key was added to 2.7 to aid transition to
3.x. A faster version would make use in 2.7 more inviting.
I understand
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Filip, you can look at the changed Benjamin made. One needs to be OP or have
admin privileges to change the headers.
Could you reupload your patch to this issue?
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I would say yes (if you are sure changes are correct) unless Nick speaks up to
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@Tim: was it your intention that difflib track gnu diff?
I am on the fence with this issue. Without input from Tim other than the doc, I
am tempted to call this a feature request and retitle it "Make unified_diff
match gnu diff for [] input". The d
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'attribute has correct value'. If any are changed, I would think all should be
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All the types in the types module are, being types, potentially callable to
produce instances of that type. But they are in types rather than builtins
precisely because it is not expected that they be called directly. They are
bound to names in types
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The error message suggests that somehow a str string has gotten mixed in with
the bytes. Something like '\n' or ' '?
Steffen, if you want to help track this down:
1. What is a minimal msgdata that gives the same error; post it.
2. Add &#x
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Devs are aware that there is an exception to the general rule for the 'for'
clause. There is a technical reason why the exception is possible, though I
have forgotten it.
Since you already know that changing the general behavior has been rejected
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Title changed.
Generator expressions had the same limitation in 2.x.
All comprehensions have the same limitation in 3.x.
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Elsewhere, Guido said that this appears *not* to be a security bug since the
crash is "triggered by a logic bug in the user's code, not by bad data." Hence,
not eligible for backport to 2.5/6, which are in security-fix only mode.
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Messages that only consist of links are classified that way. To refer to other
issues, use #x, as with #6040, but I have no idea which of the many
messages you were referring to, so use msgxx.
The stack overflow link
http://stackoverflow.com
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