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Did you use revision 0, and in 8.6.11.0, or a later one?
As I mentioned in #43719, I cannot currently build master, but I will upload a
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In issue 33656, we determined that tcl/tk *is* dpi aware and that telling
Windows so is needed for proper text display. IDLE now issues the same Windows
command (idlelib.pyshell, line 20). This perhaps should be done by Python
itself, but that is not my
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Re ""f:\dev\3x\PC\validate_ucrtbase.py" ucrtbased" exited with co
de -1073741819."
f:\dev\3x>py -3.10 PC\validate_ucrtbase.py ucrtbased
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ucrtbased.DLL is version 10.0.14393.33
so the failur
New submission from Terry J. Reedy :
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> PCbuild\build.bat -D (or without -D)
on my machine ends with
python.vcxproj -> f:\dev\3x\PCbuild\amd64\python_d.pdb (Full PDB)
Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = (not set)
PYTHONPATH = 'f:\dev\
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must be shifted by 16 bits to be valid to use as input to the
curses.pair_content() function.
If the pair number result is not shifted, the call to curses.pair_content
New submission from Peter J. Farley III :
The documentation for the result values of curses functions inch() and
scrbkgd() or how to use those result values are omitted entirely.
Documentation should at least describe how to use the result values of these
functions without necessarily
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After 3+ years of Github I did not remember that B diffs use lines with
change position markers and in particular that at they (often? always?) start
with ?s. IDLE also uses color to mark positions (for syntax errors). The
following would have been clearer
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Andre', direct issue like this to discussion forums like python-list.
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The quote is in the following section.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/difflib.html#difflib.Differ
I do not really understand the previous line "Lines beginning with ‘?’ attempt
to guide the eye to intraline differences, and were not present in either
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I would not be surprised if using the gui features of both tkinter and pygame
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if both were handling key and mouse events. That might be closed instead as
"won'
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Should we mention that the 4 attributes are also available as a 4-tuple that is
the 2nd item of the args tuple, after the message? Doing so will help when
illustrating the following.
For syntax errors in f-string fields, the expanded doc is still
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I am closing because 2 of your 3 examples (and many others) have had the
messages changed in an effort to be more informative. But Pablo can reverse
this if he wants.
In 3.10:
>>> * 2
SyntaxError: can't use starred expression here
+2 and -2
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rather than showtraceback. The same problem arises with a bad excepthook in
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Great! For the first time in over 2 years, the test suite passes on a Windows
repository build on my machine. I will test installed 3.10 after the next
alpha release. (3.10.0a7 has other failures as well
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On macOS with 3.10.0a, 8.6.11 appears to fix this issue.
>>> chr(128516)
""
For IDLE, I am adding a paragraph to the doc. I will then close this issue as
'fixed' (insofar as we can for what is a 3rd party failure).
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Investigation of this issue is complicated by the fact that the editor test
widgets are wrapped by multicall.MulticallCreator. It intercepts bind and
event method calls (other than event_generate) for user pseudoevents. It keeps
its own map of pseudoevent
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No, seems strictly a matter of complicated color, which is perhaps becoming
more common. Firefox colors the checkbox (white checkmark on green field in a
largish black square) but not the (smaller) pencil. I did not recognize either
the FF or tk Windows
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Thank you for reporting. While I may have had tab not work after the dialog, I
had never connected the two. Nor, AFAIK, was there an existing report. I
verified, investigated more, and opened #43654
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(Original report by Mikhail on #43647, running 3.9 on Linux; verified and
extended by me running 3.10 on Windows.)
Normally, "i" brings up a completion window with 'id', 'if', 'import',
etc. Opening a Settings windows with Options => C
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I closed #43647 as a duplicate of this. It reported that BMP chars can fail
also. For instance, with "Noto Sans Mono", but not 'Dejavu Mono', the
following crash.
>>> '\u2705'
'✅'
>>> '\u270f'
'✏'
Unfortunately, as lea
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Closing as a duplicate. What's new here is that BMP chars can be affected also.
I opened #43652 to upgrade Windows installer to 8.6.11 (though not needed for
this) but I guess Linux users have to bug their distributor or learn to upgrade
themselves
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#39017, PR 22405 was too late for 3.9, but the new Mac installer is already
using 8.6.11. Serhiy, do you know any reason not to upgrade the Windows
installer to 8.6.11 also?
Steve, should a new PR with '10' replaced with '11, where '9' was replaced
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
So, can we delete it?
PR 19781 is for #43510 and is listed here above only because this issue is
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This is actually a tk and tkinter issue rather than IDLE issue as such. Python
code can only catch Python exceptions, and I believe that the Xserver crash
does not result in one. These crashes were reported on a different issue and
the conclusion
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New changeset a53e9a7cf5912a44c5143e353912e44cfcfca7dc by Irit Katriel in
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bpo-39231: correct tutorial annotations section (GH-25029)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a53e9a7cf5912a44c5143e353912e44cfcfca7dc
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This is not an execution bug.
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#displays-for-lists-sets-and-dictionaries
"However, aside from the iterable expression in the leftmost for clause, the
comprehension is executed in a separate implicitly n
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Verified on Win10 for 3.8-3.10. 3.6 only gets security fixes.
Guido, is the above a bug? (There is no listed abc or 'metaclass' expert and I
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3.6 only gets security patches. You or someone needs to show an unfixed bug in
master. Your code runs for me on Windows, whereas you appear to be using *nix.
Replacing job_name.encode() should have the same behavior. Do you see the
same with job_name=&qu
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Perhaps both. If you want more discussion, please post to python-list.
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I think that this issue should be closed as 'out of date' as it was pretty
open-ended and it is unclear what request remains.
For the specific case "for a in (8,9)", the suggested "expected ':'" has been
added on anot
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Fixed elsewhere.
>>> 04208
File "", line 1
04208
^
SyntaxError: leading zeros in decimal integer literals are not permitted; use
an 0o prefix for octal integers
>>> 0o38
File "", line 1
0o38
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Cressey noted both a compile and IDLE Shell issue. They must be handled
separately by different people in separate bpo issues.
The first is about the helpful versus less helpful SyntaxError messages in the
following (master compiled today).
>>&
New submission from Terry J. Reedy :
Spinoff from #41064. In current python, the f'{*x}' traceback ends with
(*x)
^
SyntaxError: f-string: can't use starred expression here.
For f'{**x}', the message is "f-string: invalid syntax" and the ^ is also under
the 2nd
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I added idlelib.idletest in May 2013 with the concurrence of Nick Coughlin, who
also suggested 'idle_test' rather than just 'test'. It currently has 72 files
(66 test_xyz files for idlelib modules).
Foord's opening justification for moving package tests
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Before the patch, IDLE highlighted the \n endline with a red background, which
tk displays as red background from the blank space after the 4 to the right
edge of the text widget, including in 3.8.8.
The 3.8 result, different from REPL, is due
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Whatever the situation was last May, current 3.10 now results in a correct and
improved traceback ending in
File "F:\Python\a\tem4.py", line 2
print("hello world"
^
SyntaxError: '(' was never closed
Same if \n or addi
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I read all the responses as of this timestamp. They left me more persuaded that
joining objects with a string (or bytes) is explicit enough that the objects
*must* be coerced to strings.
A problem with coercion in "1 + '2'" is that there i
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Foolish me. Commenting out the first exec results in the 2nd exec raising.
Commenting out the 2nd exec also results in the class code raising, which is
what I expected. The point of the class code is to partially explain the
exception, which is not a bug
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I am sympathetic to the 'hiding bugs' argument in general, but what bugs would
this proposal hide? What bugs does print hide by auto-converting non-strings
to strings?
I recently had the same thought as Raymond's: "it would be nice if str.join
conv
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I agree with Raymond, at least for now. I would expect the string argument to
Fraction to be quoted legal Python code. Without a lot of thought and
discussion leading to a change in python design with respect to unicode and
operators, this limits
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Verified in 3.10.0a6 that change is at 3 !s. I agree that is is a bug relative
to the doc.
The issue is that 'world!!!' is 8 chars, and by default, wrap splits that into
'w' and 'orld!!!' and add ' w' to 'hello'.
>>> sh('hello world!!!', width=7)
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Skip, if you do not make a backport, you can close this.
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New changeset 7cb033c423b65def1632d6c3c747111543b342a2 by Skip Montanaro in
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/7cb033c423b65def1632d6c3c747111543b342a2
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How are you starting IDLE? How are you using the turtle module? What does
"can't get the window open" mean exactly? Does the menu item Shell => Restart
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This tracker is for patching CPython, including the docs. Questions for
discussion should be posted to python-list. Perhaps such a discussion would
lead to a concrete change proposal. In the meanwhile, I think that this should
be closed as 'not a bug
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I cannot reproduce in Python with either 3.8 or 3.10. (Please try with latter
if you can.) I thought the issue might possibly be passing two different
dicts, which results in the code being executed as if in a class statement, but
it is not.
code
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Thomas J. Gallen added the comment:
Given the previous example, in test.py, replace:
```
print(test_module.test_submodule)
```
...with:
```
assert(not hasattr(test_module, "test_submodule"))
```
...because the issue is only the bottom half of `_find_and_load_unlocked`.
Sp
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Yes, a package. There isn't actually that much in the txz. Most of the files
are ostensibly empty.
As an example, let's say we have the following files:
test.py
test_module/__init__.py
test_module/test_submodule.py
test.py contains:
```python
import
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Thank you, EP, for being 'someone'. I should remember that you are the one who
can current do these tests. I presume the reproducible 'this' is the
non-response to cmd-A, cmd-Z, and so on. So closing as 3rd party, tcl/tk,
issue.
I comfirmed that Jacob's
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The menu items and Windows shortcuts work on Windows 10. Several shortcuts and
some menu items do not work on macOS. The latter is true for the undo and
clipboard items at the top of the Edit menu. The shortcuts do cause 'Edit' to
flash, indicating
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New changeset 5e29021a5eb10baa9147fd977cab82fa3f652bf0 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-43199: Briefly explain why no goto (GH-24852)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/5e29021a5eb10baa9147fd977cab82fa3f652bf0
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OK. I see no structural difference between his page and yours,
https://bugs.python.org/user2040. No 'Roles' field, no 'User' entry, on either
page, nor on mine. So you must be an admin who sees extra info. In any case,
the last part of my comment stands
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With more experience, I agree that 0/0 tests passing should not be a pass.
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As an IDLE maintainer, I am a tkinter user also and that is my involvement in
tkinter changes. One of my projects for IDLE has been to switch to ttk
widgets, including ttk.Frame, wherever possible, for the reasons you gave.
It is known the tkinter docs we
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Currently return tuple (i, j, n), means that a[i:i+n] == b[j:j+n], where both
matching blocks are the same length.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/difflib.html#difflib.SequenceMatcher.get_matching_blocks
This would not be the case if a has an ignored space
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
(You don't use coords('tunnel') above because it only reports on the 'first'
tagged object.)
tkinter widget methods are generally thin wrappers around tk functions that
translate between python objects and tk strings.
I believe that this should be closed
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An actual example might help get an answer.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Steve, PEP 632 lacks a reference to the SC acceptance thereof. Could you add
one?
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/thread/TXU6TVOMBLQU3SV57DMMOA5Y2E67AW7P/
And can you verify my interpretation below?
The warning is correct
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skrah is still a bpo user with an CLA-signed account linked to his github
account. So he can post here and, I believe, open a PR as a contributor. But
if, under the current circumstances, he feels more comfortable using Antoine as
a go between, then I
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
A possible resolution to this issue might be augmenting
https://docs.python.org/3/library/fractions.html#module-fractions
with a short paragraph or section on alternative implementations noting that
there is a tradeoff between speed and complexity
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An exception exit is not a 'crash' for this tracker. The latter is an
indefinite hang or a no-exception stackoverflow or the Windows equivalent error
box (or worse). The linked issue appears to show an exception exit.
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Victor, the apparent 3.10 regression is from your commit.
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You are confusing the widget path component, an arbitrary string of chars other
than the separator '.', with the English word 'frame', which is also a tk
command. In tk docs, 'a *frame*' is a widget (tk window) created with the
'frame' command.
By default
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This has been debated for 15 years see #1207613. The current patch, which only
displays a scrollbar when needed, 'works', but in a way that is not visually
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Add compile(..., mode='repl')?
"If mode is 'repl', compile returns None to indicate that the code is
incomplete as is but might become valid if more lines (or maybe just more code)
were added"
Deprecate _maybe_compile (and stop tryin
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New changeset ff5f05934db241dfafc604989b2de3487b09ca82 by Alex Willmer in
branch 'master':
bpo-43407: Clarify comparisons of time.monotonic() et al results (GH-24757)
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