[issue21782] hashable documentation error: shouldn't mention id

2014-10-06 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset bfaf434a6f10 by Georg Brandl in branch '3.4': Closes #21782: the default hash(x) is not exactly id(x) but derived from it. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bfaf434a6f10 -- nosy: +python-dev resolution: -> fixed stage: -> resolved status:

[issue21782] hashable documentation error: shouldn't mention id

2014-06-16 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: Yes, I should have been clearer. By "poorly worded" I meant "id is involved, but the sentence does not correctly describe *how* id is involved". That is, the sentence is wrong as written. The implementation is the same in both Python2 and Python3, though th

[issue21782] hashable documentation error: shouldn't mention id

2014-06-16 Thread Giacomo Alzetta
Giacomo Alzetta added the comment: "their hash value is their id()" seems quite clearly stating that: >>> class A: pass ... >>> a = A() >>> hash(a) == id(a) should be true, but: >>> hash(a) == id(a) False (both in python2 and in python3) The python 2 documentation for the __hash__ special m

[issue21782] hashable documentation error: shouldn't mention id

2014-06-16 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: The statement is poorly worded. The id() is the *input* to the hash function used to compute the default __hash__. This is a CPython implementation detail, though, so perhaps all mention of it should indeed be dropped. -- nosy: +r.david.murray

[issue21782] hashable documentation error: shouldn't mention id

2014-06-16 Thread Giacomo Alzetta
New submission from Giacomo Alzetta: The documentation for hashable in the glossary (https://docs.python.org/3.4/reference/datamodel.html#object.__hash__) is incorrect: they all compare unequal (except with themselves), **and their hash value is their id().** It is *not* true that their hash