[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-05-22 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: The support is in and the option remains named applocal. Hopefully this (and the ZIP file version, which will include the preconfigured pyvenv.cfg) will help with app distributions, though I'm still open to make changes if it doesn't. -- resolution: -

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-05-22 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 620a247b4960 by Steve Dower in branch 'default': Issue #23955: Add pyvenv.cfg option to suppress registry/environment lookup for generating sys.path. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/620a247b4960 -- nosy: +python-dev

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-05-10 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Any further comments/bikeshedding on the applocal parameter? I still need to do some docs, but I want the basic design agreed upon first. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23955

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-05-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Issue 23857 was the one where I thought there might be an overlap with a design consideration on Linux (related to coming up with a conventional for backporting PEP 476 as a CPython redistributor). However, I've now suggested a different path forward there,

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-05-02 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Added a patch that: * adds the applocal option to pyvenv.cfg * updates the docs to describe how pyvenv.cfg (home and applocal) affect sys.path * puts a default pyvenv.cfg in the ZIP distribution * adds significantly more buffer overflow protection to getpathp.c *

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Having looked at the implementation, the easiest way to do this will be to add an applocal = true option to pyvenv.cfg, which would behave identically to setting %PYTHONHOME% to the directory containing the config before launch. I wanted to support relative

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-27 Thread Thomas Kluyver
Thomas Kluyver added the comment: Would that option be the only thing that needs to be set to make Python app-local? I'm not familiar with what lives in pyvenv.cfg. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23955

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: None of the other options really have much use in this case, since they're mostly about how to combine multiple environments rather than excluding implicit ones. Setting PYTHONHOME to the current directory certainly seems to be enough AFAICT, at least for

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-25 Thread Paul Moore
Paul Moore added the comment: As described. this seems to be a Windows-only feature (it's replacing a registry lookup with a config file alongside the Python DLL). So I'm not sure I understand Nick's comment - Nick, are you suggesting this should be a cross-platform feature? If so, what's the

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Treating local Python as a special-case of venv sounds like a good approach, then (especially as it currently seems plausible we'll end up going for environment variable based approach to the downstream PEP 476 backport) --

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-25 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: I'm leaning towards clarifying/fixing the behavior of the venv config, since it's most of the way there for what I care about. Adding another option for applocal may be needed, but possibly not, in which case defining how relative paths are handled would be

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: If we're adding a static startup configuration file, then yes, I believe that should be a cross-platform feature, not something Windows specific, as it's a major change to our configuration philosophy. (I think it's a *necessary* change, but it's also a

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: I'd actually like a python.ini file defined as a Python 3.5 feature in order to provide a better backporting story for the PEP 476 certificate changes in downstream long term support releases of Python 2.7. So +1 in principle, but I'd like to see this written

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Kluyver
Thomas Kluyver added the comment: Relative paths would be nice for Pynsist - I would prefer to create the config file at build time and then install it along with the other files. If it needed absolute paths, then the installer would have to write the config file after the user selects the

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Kluyver
Changes by Thomas Kluyver tak...@gmail.com: -- nosy: +takluyver ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23955 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-18 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: I could reuse the venv config file but it would need a new property to forcibly use the 'home' value regardless of whether '$home\Lib\os.py' exists (in case the stdlib is zipped) and to make it relative to the file's path rather than the user's current

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-18 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Arguably we should be making 'home' in pyvenv.cfg relative to the pyvenv.cfg file's directory anyway... AFAIK it's always generated as an absolute path, but I see no good reason to prevent people from manually configuring a relative path here. --

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-17 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: Hm, could you reuse the venv config file with use-site-packages=true? -- nosy: +eric.araujo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23955 ___

[issue23955] Add python.ini file for embedded/applocal installs

2015-04-14 Thread Steve Dower
New submission from Steve Dower: When Python starts running we (getpathp.c) looks in the registry for its library directory. To avoid this, you can set PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME environment variables, but this isn't always easy if you've copied Python into your app's directory. We should