[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-26 Thread Ned Deily
Ned Deily added the comment: > Does IDLE every run long enough with Apple's tk before failure to make > continuing useful? Yes, depending on what you are doing, IDLE *may* run just fine with the system Tk. But you may may run into this issue depending on how you scroll. Or, among the

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-26 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: It seems that the current warning WARNING: The version of Tcl/Tk (8.5.9) in use may be unstable. Visit http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ for current information. is not visible or strong enough to prevent spurious issues like this. I would like to

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread George Pantazes
George Pantazes added the comment: In case anyone would like to weigh in on the Homebrew side, I've filed the homebrew issue here: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/issues/41338 . -- ___ Python tracker

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread Ned Deily
Ned Deily added the comment: As @willingc notes, it is a Homebrew build issue that should be addressed by Homebrew. That said, it is also possible that Homebrew builds have been affected by changes in Mojave as mentioned in Issue34956. I plan to look into that shortly to see if we can

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread Carol Willing
Carol Willing added the comment: George, This is a Homebrew build issue (see additional notes on the Brew forum https://discourse.brew.sh/t/cannot-get-python-to-use-tcl-tk-version-8-6/3563. You may wish to try the suggestions found there. My recommendation would be to use the official

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread George Pantazes
George Pantazes added the comment: Checked against the python.org installation. In that installation's IDLE, About IDLE > Tk version 8.6.8. So my question is: - Is it on me to fix this for my own machine because I should have gotten my own more-up-to-date TK before installing Python via

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread George Pantazes
George Pantazes added the comment: Alright folks, sorry there's going to be a lot of pasted blocks of output, so just look for where I @ your name to address your questions. @ned.deily, here is the output of those info commands. ``` ➜ python3 -m test.pythoninfo

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread Carol Willing
Carol Willing added the comment: Thanks for the additional information Rakesh. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread Ned Deily
Ned Deily added the comment: > It seems to be compiled using Tcl 8.5 that is installed with the system. Yes, and that is almost certainly the original poster's problem, as well. In fact, this same issue was reported in Issue10731 in 2010. The Tcl/Tk 8.5 supplied by Apple in macOS is

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-25 Thread Rakesh Singh
Rakesh Singh added the comment: Same behaviour experienced here on Mojave Kernel Version 18.6.0. Homebrew Python 3.7.3 Python 3.7.3 (default, Jun 19 2019, 07:38:49) [Clang 10.0.1 (clang-1001.0.46.4)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. WARNING:

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-24 Thread Carol Willing
Carol Willing added the comment: Hi George, What language and encoding are you using on your system? Are you using UTF-16? I haven't been able to reproduce this on my Mac Mojave with an Anaconda Python 3.7.3 install. -- nosy: +willingc ___

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-24 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: For future reference: an exception is not a crash. A crash is a core dump or the Mac equivalent. Anyway, I also cannot reproduce with Python.org python on my Macbook. python 3.7.3(v3.7.3:ef4e...) Mar 25, 2019 16:52:21 Clang 6.0 (...) on Darwin Where did

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-24 Thread Ned Deily
Ned Deily added the comment: FWIW, I can't reproduce the failure using either Python 3.7.3 from either the python.org binary installer or a current MacPorts 3.7.3. But that's not surprising as the issue is most likely in Tk rather than IDLE or Python itself. Can you supply the output from

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-24 Thread George Pantazes
George Pantazes added the comment: Also happens when I plug in a conventional mouse and use the mouse scrollwheel (so it's not just the touchpad scrolling!). -- ___ Python tracker

[issue37391] MacOS Touchpad scrolling crashes IDLE

2019-06-24 Thread George Pantazes
New submission from George Pantazes : IDLE crashes if the user scrolls with the Mac mousepad (using two fingers, either up or down). ```$ python -m idlelib # Then I use the mousepad to scroll in the IDLE window Traceback (most recent call last): File