[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Tarek Ziadé added the comment: I think there's no consensus at this point in the "best" format for all platform. I am closing this issue as "wontfix". Maybe a new format will rule them all in a few years. Michael, can you create a specific issue for the CRLF problem ? Thanks a lot. -

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Georg Brandl added the comment: > Because I'm a unix weenie, and zip files feel like an intrusion from the > Windows world. I expect source tarballs to be, well, tarballs. I don't > say zip shouldn't be the default, I just noted that I personally would > find that distasteful. ;) Agreed :) --

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

R. David Murray added the comment: Because I'm a unix weenie, and zip files feel like an intrusion from the Windows world. I expect source tarballs to be, well, tarballs. I don't say zip shouldn't be the default, I just noted that I personally would find that distasteful. ;) -- __

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Antoine Pitrou added the comment: > Personally I would very much dislike it if python source distributions > were zipfiles by default. Why? -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Antoine Pitrou added the comment: > other container like zip-container is > not well designed for unix-like file systems. Well, please be more specific as to why zip it affects "sdist" in particular. Never before have I heard anyone claim that zip was ill-suited for source tarballs. > I disagr

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

R. David Murray added the comment: I do not believe it is true that zip is supported by all platforms out of the box. As far as I know Gentoo, for example, does not install unzip by default. For that matter, before windows XP one had to download a utility to unzip files on windows (and that ut

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Michael Foord added the comment: Yup, standard install procedure is (and will probably remain for a while) - unpack and run python setup.py install Users should be able to unpack on the most common platforms Python supports without needing additional tools. All major platforms have native zip s

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Zooko O'Whielacronx added the comment: Antoine, when you say zip has "better support everywhere", what do you mean? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but what I think of is that users maybe want to pack or unpack distributions with separate tools instead of with the Python tools. Is tha

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Roumen Petrov added the comment: Antoine, you may mix container with compression. tar as file container is suitable for unix like systems. other container like zip-container is not well designed for unix-like file systems. I disagree with request. Package distribution is platform dependent. --

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Antoine Pitrou added the comment: As Michael said. As a Linux user I prefer tar.gz (or tar.bz2 or tar.xz), but distutils should go with zip since it has better support everywhere. It's true that tar supports lzma (although unfortunately there is still no lzma support bundled in the stdlib), but

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Zooko O'Whielacronx added the comment: I strongly favor a common approach instead of doing it differently on different platforms. (Aside: check out the gratuitous differences for names and locations of distutils config files: http://docs.python.org/install/index.html#location-and-names-of-confi

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Michael Foord added the comment: Better compression. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Tim Golden added the comment: What's superior about .tar.gz? (This is a genuine question). -- nosy: +tim.golden title: Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows -> Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windo

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Michael Foord added the comment: The point is not for developers who are happy handling .tar.gz but users of the distribution who don't have a way of handling them. I prefer .tar.gz myself as well but I don't think the default distribution format should be one that isn't natively supported by o

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Tarek Ziadé added the comment: As a developer I prefer .tar.gz, but I don't have a strong opinion on picking zip or tar, I think tar is fine as long as all installers out there (easy_install, pip, etc) are working with the archives on every platform too. Someone who wants more can handle tar i

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Michael Foord added the comment: Given that Windows can't handle tar files by default but all platforms support zip out of the box wouldn't (unfortunately) zip be a better default? For the MANIFEST I meant the file called MANIFEST that distutils creates (and includes in the distribution) when y

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

Tarek Ziadé added the comment: Now that distutils uses tarfile (see #6048) we can propose a tar archive on all platform by default without requiring "tar" to be installed. Althoug, the gz compression requires the zlib module. I need to check what are the requirements of its installation in the

[issue6296] Native (and default) tarfile support for setup.py sdist in distutils on Windows

New submission from Michael Foord : setup.py should be able to generate tarfile distributions on Windows without requiring tar to be on the path. Ideally "setup.py sdist" should create the same type of archive (zip or tarball) by default independent of platform. At the moment it creates a zip b