Jeff Ramnani j...@jefframnani.com added the comment:
I've checked Lib/site.py and it tells the user to use 'Ctrl-Z' to exit the
prompt when they are running Windows.
Perhaps this means we can close the ticket, since discussion on this issue
seems to have dissipated?
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Westley Martínez aniko...@gmail.com added the comment:
This is annoying. Every beginner's Python tutorial I've read made it very clear
how to exactly exit the interactive shell. Ctrl has been in use for years.
Changing it for novices' sake is ridiculous. Do we need to expand every
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
Why not to ship it in Python by default?
Because it is under GPL?
pyreadline is under BSD.
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anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Mark Lawrence rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
This to me is getting stupid. Let's make a decision and move on, there are
far more pressing issues that need attention.
Do you think that getting
Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk added the comment:
Not necessarily; pyreadline takes over from the standard console
functionality on Windows in order to emulate a more Unix-ish
approach. I prefer the Windows default.
There's nothing to stop someone downloading and installing
pyreadline as a
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
I suggest changing
Use exit() or Ctrl-D (i.e. EOF) to exit
to
Type exit() or quit() and press the Enter key to exit
Type exit() or press Ctrl-D
Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk added the comment:
+1 to improving the message and improving the help message too.
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:48 AM, anatoly techtonik
rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
..
Type exit() or press Ctrl-D to exit.
Anatoly,
I think you missed the point of the story that I posted. The young
user, who was not
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
1) I'm with Michael on this one.
2) Python is not responsible for dotting every i and crossing every t for a
computer novice. What would the novice make of my HP keyboard which doesn't
have keys marked RETURN or BS, they both have
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Mark Lawrence rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
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2) Python is not responsible for dotting every i and crossing every t for a
computer novice.
Yes, but it is not responsible for teaching a
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
Could we (easily) add a third line at startup that says how to quit?
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Mark Lawrence rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
Could we (easily) add a third line at startup that says how to quit?
+1
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
I think you missed the point of the story that I posted. The young
user, who was not completely new to computers, by the way, was not
familiar with
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Could we (easily) add a third line at startup that says how to quit?
+1
+1
- Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
+ Type
Brian Curtin cur...@acm.org added the comment:
Python 3.1.2 (r312:79149, Mar 21 2010, 00:41:52) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
^D
File stdin, line 1
♦
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
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anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
Something is broken in your 3.1.2 - this is Ctrl-D for me.
{{{
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\~env\Python26python
Python 2.6.5 (r265:79096, Mar 19 2010, 21:48:26)
Brian Curtin cur...@acm.org added the comment:
Do you have pyreadline installed? If so, that is causing it. If not, it's
something else as Ctrl-D is not an EOF character on Windows.
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anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:
It appears that `import pyreadline` goes ok. It appears that this lib
is used for unification of console incompatibilities between platform.
Why not to ship it in Python by default?
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Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:32 PM, anatoly techtonik
rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Why not to ship it in Python by default?
Because it is under GPL?
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Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
c:\py3k\Libpy32
Python 3.2a0 (py3k:83057M, Jul 22 2010, 15:20:27) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
^D
File stdin, line 1
♦
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[49008
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:
I assume that this is on *nix boxes, on Windows it's:-
quit
Use quit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit
exit
Use exit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
I assume that this is on *nix boxes
It's a bit of a stretch to call OSX unix, but yes:
Laptop = a MacBook Air
If you have not seen one of these, the control key is marked control on its
keyboard.
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
Now, as I look at it, the windows message is probably even worse. What is
plus? Is Ctrl-Z control *minus* z?
For a novice, you really have to say: press Ctrl and Z keys together and then
press Return or Enter key. Of
New submission from Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net:
This bikeshed have been repainted several times already, but here is a true
story.
Cast:
Me = myself
Novice = a 14-year-old boy
Laptop = a MacBook Air
Novice: How do i exit [from python prompt]?
Me: What's your best
Ron Adam ron_a...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
I agree it could be improved a bit.
A little experimenting comes up with the following inconsistencies.
quit
Use quit() or Ctrl-D (i.e. EOF) to exit
exit
Use exit() or Ctrl-D (i.e. EOF) to exit
help(exit) and help(quit) is not
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