Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:05:30 -0500, Steve Holden wrote: > Antoine is quite correct. The strict process would be to include a note it > the NEWS file pointing out that this deficiency was found too late for the > necessary fixes to be applied in a controlled manner. I think a warning in the docume

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:04 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > If the module weren't already broken for most real-world purposes I'd > no question want to wait. As it is I'm on the fence. Me too, but I did want to acknowledge the correctness of Antoine's argument. Yes, I reminded people (using multipr

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
Antoine is quite correct. The strict process would be to include a note it the NEWS file pointing out that this deficiency was found too late for the necessary fixes to be applied in a controlled manner. I was not thinking straight: I remember arguing in the past that multiprocessing should be

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Antoine Pitrou
While I agree the mailbox module is basically useless right now, the fact that we are using the rc phase for common bug fixing means the rc phase has become useless too. That may become a quality problem in the middle term. On the other hand, if the RM refused all non-trivial patches during the rc

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and > David's support that the module is so broken without this patch that the > module should not really have been included in a production release. > > Even if the curr

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and David's support that the module is so broken without this patch that the module should not really have been included in a production release. Even if the current patch is broken, I believe the results of using that code

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Le vendredi 28 janvier 2011 à 12:06 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit : > this is just a heads-up that I'll be freezing py3k for the rc2 release > in a bit less than 48 hours -- Sunday morning in CET. > > Please get all changes that you already know are necessary reviewed and > committed *before* t

[python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Georg Brandl
Hi guys, this is just a heads-up that I'll be freezing py3k for the rc2 release in a bit less than 48 hours -- Sunday morning in CET. Please get all changes that you already know are necessary reviewed and committed *before* that: the goal is zero commits between rc2 and final (although I know it