On 2017-01-20 5:02 PM, Lukasz Langa wrote:
On Jan 20, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Yury Selivanov wrote:
I think that we need to become less conservative about
development of CPython internals. At this point it's impossible
to make CPython any faster without invasive refactorings, and
I think it's OK t
2017-01-21 0:14 GMT+01:00 Andrew Dalke :
> For this one bug, I agree with the interpretation that it was handled with a
> cavalier attitude. I don't feel like it's being treated with the seriousness
> it should.
The regression was introduced by http://bugs.python.org/issue27776
which was reviewe
As more of an ex-Python committer, I have little to say about current
processes. I will make one observation:
On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
> I introduced a regression in random.Random.seed(): ...
> IMHO the regression is not "catastrophic". Only few developers
> instancia
> On Jan 20, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Yury Selivanov wrote:
>
> I think that we need to become less conservative about
> development of CPython internals. At this point it's impossible
> to make CPython any faster without invasive refactorings, and
> I think it's OK to trust our core developers to mak
Thanks for this email Victor, it illustrates a lot of pain-points
that some core devs have with CPython development process.
I think that we are lucky that we have you and Serhiy who spend
so much time to push so many improvements to the CPython internals.
I think that while we are working on a n
On 2017-01-20 8:38 AM, Stefan Krah wrote:
I'm still very interested of course to have an official FASTCALL API
for third party modules that don't (and probably should not) use AC.
AFAIK, even though FASTCALL isn't "official", Cython already
uses it.
Yury
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:45:29AM +0100, Victor Stinner wrote:
> The truth is that too few of my patches get a review :-/ Maybe I
> should wait longer, but then it becomes harder for me to handle many
> patches.
The problem here is partly that maintainers don't think that all of the
changes are w
Hi Victor, hi Raymond,
Le 20/01/2017 à 11:45, Victor Stinner a écrit :
>
> Inaccurate summary: I'm a strong supporter of "it's better to ask
> forgiveness than permission", whereas Raymond considers that I
> introduced too many regressions with my workflow.
It's a matter of balance. "Easier to
Hi, Victor and all.
I'm sorry, I haven't read the whole mail yet. Reading long English is
tough job for me.
I notice this mail is very important for me. I'll take time to read
this thread.
But it may take long time. I want to post some comments before.
I learned many from reviewing Victor's p
Hi,
Raymond Hettinger used a regression that I introduced in the builtin
sorted() function (in Python 3.6.0) to give me his feedback on my
FASTCALL work, but also on Argument Clinic.
Context: http://bugs.python.org/issue29327#msg285848
Since the reported issues is wider than just FASTCALL, inclu
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