Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 21 January 2017 at 23:32, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Le 21/01/2017 à 12:27, Nick Coghlan a écrit : >> >> The Red Hat python-maint folks (Peter Viktorin et al) similarly tried >> to time things so there was a window to provide feedback from Fedora >> Rawhide on a beta release prior to the final 3

Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-21 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 21/01/2017 à 12:27, Nick Coghlan a écrit : > > The Red Hat python-maint folks (Peter Viktorin et al) similarly tried > to time things so there was a window to provide feedback from Fedora > Rawhide on a beta release prior to the final 3.6.0 release, but it > unfortunately ended up not being pr

Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 20 January 2017 at 21:45, Victor Stinner wrote: > What do you mean by "author"? As you wrote, Python is now 26 years > old, so it had a very long history, and each file has a very long list > of "authors". I guess that you mean more a "maintainer". > > My problem is that I'm not aware of any ex

Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 21 January 2017 at 09:02, Lukasz Langa wrote: >> On Jan 20, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Yury Selivanov wrote: >> I think that we need to become less conservative about >> development of CPython internals. At this point it's impossible >> to make CPython any faster without invasive refactorings, and >>

Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-21 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/20/2017 04:03 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: 2017-01-21 0:14 GMT+01:00 Andrew Dalke : For this one bug, I agree with the interpretation that it was handled with a cavalier attitude. I don't feel like it's being treated with the seriousness it should. I don't understand why you are saying