Re: [python-committers] Providing .tgz sources

2010-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/12/5 "Martin v. Löwis" : >> I wonder if it's still necessary to provide .tar.bz2 and .tgz source >> tarballs.  If anything, it would be nice to provide .tar.xz in addition >> to .tar.bz2, which has a nicer compression ratio: > > Looking at download statistics, for the 2.7 release, in July, we

Re: [python-committers] Providing .tgz sources

2010-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/12/5 Fred Drake : > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: >> (btw, someone mentioned bandwidth -- are we paying for bandwidth? what >> fraction of the python.org traffic is downloads?) > > Even if the PSF isn't paying for bandwidth (and I don'

Re: [python-committers] Providing .tgz sources

2010-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/12/5 Georg Brandl : > Hi, > > I wonder if it's still necessary to provide .tar.bz2 and .tgz source > tarballs.  If anything, it would be nice to provide .tar.xz in addition > to .tar.bz2, which has a nicer compression ratio: > > .tgz     - 13 MB > .tar.bz2 - 11 MB > .tar.xz  - 8.6 MB tgz (and

Re: [python-committers] Deny nonbreaking spaces in the precommit script?

2010-11-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Am 08.11.2010 14:19, schrieb Fredrik Lundh: >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>> Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 à 14:10 +0100, Fredrik Lundh a écrit : >>>> >>>>

Re: [python-committers] Deny nonbreaking spaces in the precommit script?

2010-11-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 à 14:10 +0100, Fredrik Lundh a écrit : >> >> One would have thought that "test cases" referred to test cases, not >> strings in non-test code, and that the "the stdlib is already

Re: [python-committers] Deny nonbreaking spaces in the precommit script?

2010-11-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Michael Foord > wrote: >> On 08/11/2010 12:53, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> >>> [snip...] >>> Non-breaking spaces are legal in utf-8 encoded Python source files. >>> While including them accidentally is less than i

Re: [python-committers] Deny nonbreaking spaces in the precommit script?

2010-11-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/11/8 Senthil Kumaran : > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:55:39AM +0100, Łukasz Langa wrote: >> Even if that commit hook prevents a single wrong commit a year, it's >> worth it. As unpaid volunteers, we don't have time for hunting the >> same mistakes twice. > > For common mistakes, there are commit

Re: [python-committers] branches and merging

2010-03-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Le Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:29:13 -0500, >> Steve Holden a écrit : >>> IMHO we got in this mess because we didn't have sufficient involvement >>> from Windows platform users during the DVCS evaluation - people saw >>> that

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-28 Thread Fredrik Lundh
quo" and we move on. No one is suggesting we accept *less* functionality than subversion: in fact we're looking at these for *more* functionality. On Feb 27, 2009 7:04pm, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > No need for a long answe... > On Feb 27, 2009 9:24 PM, "Brett Cannon" br.

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-28 Thread Fredrik Lundh
What's Hg:s story on Svn integration? To what extent can you use it with a Svn master repo? (Btw, I would have said that Git is probably the one that's moving the fastest right now, and where the most interesting work is being done - but their Windows story is a tragedy (at least last time I check

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
is subversion. If you hate DVCes, you mark it as "same/worse than the status quo" and we move on. No one is suggesting we accept *less* functionality than subversion: in fact we're looking at these for *more* functionality. On Feb 27, 2009 7:04pm, Fredrik Lundh wrote: &g

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On the other hand, given how quickly things move in the VC space, we might as well end up in a situation where we don't need to do anything... On Feb 27, 2009 11:47 PM, "Georg Brandl" wrote: Martin v. Löwis schrieb: >> Could you clarify for me: how binding will your PEP be? ie, will it >> be

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
tch? At least give me the chance to make a decision on whether I think it is reasonable to switch and what to switch to. And then we can have a reasonable conversation where I update the PEP to address any questions that come up. -Brett On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:59, Fredrik Lundh

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> Right, which is what I was describing... you copy your local trunk >> copy and then switch that copy to the new branch. If you use cp -al >> for this, that's a very fast operation on Unixes and avoids >> most of the network traffic. > > What

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Better, worse, or equal in what sense? Obviously, *all* of them are > better in certain senses (patch-oriented instead of revision-oriented > approach, higher (?) development velocity to clarify: I meant tool development - espec

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Better, worse, or equal in what sense? Obviously, *all* of them are better in certain senses (patch-oriented instead of revision-oriented approach, higher (?) development velocity, and not to mention the oh-shiny factor). However, it's highly questionable if any of them is better if we take also

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> BTW: You can avoid the extra checkout of the branch in Subversion >> by first locally copying the trunk checkout to a new dir (using e.g. >> cp -al) and then running a "svn switch" on it. > > That means you only work on one feature at a ti

Re: [python-committers] Survey about DVCSs compared to svn

2009-02-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > I'm no trying to advocate switching to a DVCS, but really: > >> I think that's a much better approach and one that reduces the >> load on the python.org repo sys-admins. > > How does having 4 more-or-less supported VCSes, rather than 1, lig

Re: [python-committers] I've got a surprise for you!

2009-01-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
It's an R rated romantic comedy from the Apatow team, so I guess that depends on your employer ;-) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Trent Nelson > wrote: > >>Nevertheless, I do have a surprise for everyone. > > A surprise, indeed!

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
> How do you create the release tag so that it contains change > sets A and A+2, but not A+1? (and no, creating a branch just for > the release is no option, because that means you have to copy all > the changes you made on the branch back to the trunk) creating a branch for the release is no opti

Re: [python-committers] improving our code quality [my summary of the "PQM" thread]

2008-08-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
>Jesse> Would it be possible / make sense to tie this more tightly to the >Jesse> code review application guido put together? > > Drifting a bit far afield, but are we using Guido's tool (Rietveld)? If > not, maybe the BDFL should put his BBDF (Big Benevolent Dictator's Foot) > down and de

Re: [python-committers] PQM?

2008-08-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
>> Anyway, if we're going to change policies around submitting code, I >> would much rather see peer review become a habit than adopt a tool >> like PQM. > > The part where I'm skeptical about such a policy is that there might > be a shortage of reviewers. What if a patch on Rietvield doesn't find