Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2015 19:31, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Am 17.04.15 um 00:46 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg: >>> I had asked the PSF for a StartSSL certificate when the previous >>> certificate expired, and the PSF was not able to provide one. After >>> waiting several weeks for the PSF to provide the certificate,

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 17.04.15 um 00:46 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg: >> I had asked the PSF for a StartSSL certificate when the previous >> certificate expired, and the PSF was not able to provide one. After >> waiting several weeks for the PSF to provide the certificate, Kurt then >> kindly went to Verisign. > > When was

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-16 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 16.04.2015 21:34, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Am 04.04.15 um 21:54 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg: FWIW: The PSF mostly uses StartSSL nowadays and they also support code signing certificates. Given that this option is a lot cheaper than Verisign, I think we should switch, unless there are s

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-16 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 04.04.15 um 21:54 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg: >>> FWIW: The PSF mostly uses StartSSL nowadays and they also support code >>> signing certificates. Given that this option is a lot cheaper than >>> Verisign, I think we should switch, unless there are significant >>> reasons not to. We should revisit th

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-05 Thread Steve Dower
"One question, if you will - I don't think this was asked so far - is authenticode verifiable from Linux, without Windows? And does it work for users of WINE ?" I've seen some info suggesting that it's verifiable, but you do need to extract the cert and calculate the hash against less than the si

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015, at 03:54 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 04.04.2015 21:49, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015, at 03:35 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 04.04.2015 21:02, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > >>> For the record, that is a Symantec/Verisign code signing > >>> certificate

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 04.04.2015 21:49, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015, at 03:35 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 04.04.2015 21:02, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: >>> For the record, that is a Symantec/Verisign code signing >>> certificate. We paid $1123 for it last April. It expires >>> April 2017. >>> >>>

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015, at 03:35 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 04.04.2015 21:02, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > > For the record, that is a Symantec/Verisign code signing > > certificate. We paid $1123 for it last April. It expires > > April 2017. > > > > If you don't switch to a different vendor, e.g. st

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
eve.do...@microsoft.com> >> Sent: ‎4/‎4/‎2015 7:25 >> To: Wes Turner<mailto:wes.tur...@gmail.com>; M. -A. >> Lemburg<mailto:m...@egenix.com> >> Cc: python-committers<mailto:python-committers@python.org>; >> Python-Dev<mailto:python-...@python.org> >

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
gt;; M. -A. > Lemburg<mailto:m...@egenix.com> > Cc: python-committers<mailto:python-committers@python.org>; > Python-Dev<mailto:python-...@python.org> > Subject: Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows > files with GnuPG? > >

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Dower
to:python-committers@python.org>; Python-Dev<mailto:python-...@python.org> Subject: Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG? "Authenticode does not have a PKI" If you got that from this discussion, I need everyone to at least skim read

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 04.04.2015 16:41, Steve Dower wrote: > "Relying only on Authenticode for Windows installers would result in a break > in technology w/r to the downloads we make available for Python, since all > other files are (usually) GPG signed" > > This is the point of this discussion. I'm willing to mak

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Dower
o: Steve Dower<mailto:steve.do...@microsoft.com>; Larry Hastings<mailto:la...@hastings.org>; Python Dev<mailto:python-...@python.org>; python-committers<mailto:python-committers@python.org> Subject: Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with Gnu

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Dower
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Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 >> http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ >> >> >>> Cheers, >>> Steve >>> >>> Top-posted from my Windows Phone >>> >>> Fr

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread Donald Stufft
ct/ > > >> Cheers, >> Steve >> >> Top-posted from my Windows Phone >> >> From: M.-A. Lemburg<mailto:m...@egenix.com> >> Sent: ‎4/‎3/‎2015 10:55 >> To: Steve Dower<mailto:steve.do...@microsoft.com>; Larry >&

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
;; Python > Dev<mailto:python-...@python.org>; > python-committers<mailto:python-committers@python.org> > Subject: Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows > files with GnuPG? > > On 03.04.2015 19:35, Steve Dower wrote: >>> My Window

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread Steve Dower
tters<mailto:python-committers@python.org> Subject: Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG? On 03.04.2015 19:35, Steve Dower wrote: >> My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an >> opinion here.

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 03.04.2015 19:35, Steve Dower wrote: >> My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an >> opinion here. So I put it to you, Windows Python developers: do you care >> about >> GnuPG signatures on Windows-specific files? Or do you not care? > > The later replies seem

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread Steve Dower
Larry Hastings wrote: > Steve's also changed the authentication process. His new installers rely on a > Windows digital signature technology called Authenticode where the signature > is > built right into the .exe file. Windows platforms will automatically > authenticate executables signed with Au

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 3 April 2015 at 10:56, Larry Hastings wrote: >> My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an >> opinion here. So I put it to you, Windows Python developers: do you care >> about GnuPG signatures on Windows-spe

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-03 Thread Paul Moore
On 3 April 2015 at 10:56, Larry Hastings wrote: > My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an > opinion here. So I put it to you, Windows Python developers: do you care > about GnuPG signatures on Windows-specific files? Or do you not care? I don't have a very s