Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-14 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 15:56 Brett Cannon, wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 17:11 Carol Willing, wrote: > >> On Jul 13, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 03:44 Victor Stinner wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> 2018-07-12 19:12 GMT+02:00 Mariatta Wijaya : >>> >>> >>> *

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-14 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 17:11 Carol Willing, wrote: > On Jul 13, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 03:44 Victor Stinner wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> 2018-07-12 19:12 GMT+02:00 Mariatta Wijaya : >> >> >> * Diversity. Last years, the BDFL was a strong player to enhance the

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Carol Willing
> > On Jul 13, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Jul 13, 2018, at 17:11, Carol Willing wrote: > >> If I look at the many important roles that Guido has played, I personally >> believe that he has been someone who encouraged many women (and I'm sure >> others as well) and most impo

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 13, 2018, at 17:11, Carol Willing wrote: > If I look at the many important roles that Guido has played, I personally > believe that he has been someone who encouraged many women (and I'm sure > others as well) and most importantly provided a safe place to share ideas. If > we reflect on

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Carol Willing
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Brett Cannon > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 03:44 Victor Stinner > wrote: > Hi, > > 2018-07-12 19:12 GMT+02:00 Mariatta Wijaya >: > > > * Diversity. Last years,

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 13, 2018, at 03:40, Victor Stinner wrote: > Should we split the role "take the final decision on PEPs" into > sub-roles for example? Do we need in advance to define BDFL-delegate > for some kinds of PEPs? Or the BDFL should define per-PEP, which ones > he doesn't want to handle and need a

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 03:44 Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > 2018-07-12 19:12 GMT+02:00 Mariatta Wijaya : > > What is the role of the successor(s)? Do we assume "whatever Guido did", > or > > is this an opportunity to come up with a new process? > > > > One useful resource is Vicky Brasseur's tal

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 13/07/2018 à 18:36, Victor Stinner a écrit : > > Let me elaborate this part. One quality of the BDFL (Guido) is to take > unpopular decision when he knows that it is the right choice. > > Some examples: > > * PEP 572: assignment expressions. > > * The PEP 446 "Make newly created file descri

Re: [python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2018-07-13 12:40 GMT+02:00 Victor Stinner : > * Take a decision/PEP. For a Python change (usually a PEP), when they > are two good solutions and we fail to find a consensus, the BDFL > chooses his favorite solution. Usually, when the BDFL pronounces, > everybody has to follow his choice. > > * PEP.

[python-committers] Identify roles of the BDFL

2018-07-13 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, 2018-07-12 19:12 GMT+02:00 Mariatta Wijaya : > What is the role of the successor(s)? Do we assume "whatever Guido did", or > is this an opportunity to come up with a new process? > > One useful resource is Vicky Brasseur's talk: Passing the Baton, Succession > planning for your project https:/