Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-04 Thread Donald Stufft
Yea to be clear. I just used csv and those fields as an example. I think TOML is a better choice, and we can add whatever fields are useful. Part of the devguide build step could be turning that into a nice human facing list (does that satisfy what Marc-Andre is looking for?). We could also hav

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 21:59 Donald Stufft, wrote: > > > On Aug 3, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 00:44 Donald Stufft wrote: > >> We should probably have a single source of truth for what a core >> developer is, and all other systems pull from that. >> > > Ah,

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Aug 3, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 00:44 Donald Stufft > wrote: > We should probably have a single source of truth for what a core developer > is, and all other systems pull from that. > > Ah, but I think there might be

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 00:44 Donald Stufft wrote: > We should probably have a single source of truth for what a core developer > is, and all other systems pull from that. > Ah, but I think there might be a terminology clash here. Using MALs definition means that you can be a core developer but no

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread Donald Stufft
We should probably have a single source of truth for what a core developer is, and all other systems pull from that. > On Aug 3, 2018, at 3:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > Please note that the motivation for having a list similar to the > one we have for PSF Fellows is not to determine voting e

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Please note that the motivation for having a list similar to the one we have for PSF Fellows is not to determine voting eligibility. This is about having a record of the core developer status available to show to 3rd parties, e.g. to (potential) employers, organizations, government agencies, etc.

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 02.08.2018 23:16, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 00:32 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 02.08.2018 03:24, Eric V. Smith wrote: >>> On 8/1/2018 8:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers of other Python implementati

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-03 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 02.08.2018 23:07, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 14:44 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 01.08.2018 23:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: >>> See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: >>> https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 >>> >>> Someone has also said that they're working

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Stefan Richthofer
> as long we are okay with long-dormant folk who predate this list not voting (which I'm personally fine with) That sounds reasonable. Maintaining contact info is everyone's own responsibility and not a too hard requirement. And I see that for the vote it's necessary to sort out emails more carefu

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 04:54 Stefan Richthofer wrote: > Again, this was in the (poorly conveyed) context of getting email >> addresses for them, or at least being able to contact them. >> > > I always thought there were already at least three places containing the > necessary email addresses. > >

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 14:29 Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > core devs, but now I can't find that email. > Ethan said he would

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 00:32 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 02.08.2018 03:24, Eric V. Smith wrote: > > On 8/1/2018 8:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > >> I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers > >> of other Python implementations in such a document, in > >> separate s

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 14:44 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 01.08.2018 23:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > > core devs, b

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 13:02 Jack Jansen wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 23:37, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > > > > > >> Le 01/08/2018 à 23:31, Jack Diederich a écrit : > >> https://hg.python.org/committers.txt > > > > Probably outdated, for example Pablo Salingo Salgado doesn't seem there. > > And

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Jack Jansen
> On Aug 1, 2018, at 23:37, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > >> Le 01/08/2018 à 23:31, Jack Diederich a écrit : >> https://hg.python.org/committers.txt > > Probably outdated, for example Pablo Salingo Salgado doesn't seem there. And historically incomplete: I seem to be missing from that list, ev

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 8/2/2018 7:53 AM, Stefan Richthofer wrote: Again, this was in the (poorly conveyed) context of getting email addresses for them, or at least being able to contact them. I always thought there were already at least three places containing the necessary email addresses. * python-com

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Stefan Richthofer
> > Again, this was in the (poorly conveyed) context of getting email > addresses for them, or at least being able to contact them. > I always thought there were already at least three places containing the necessary email addresses. * python-committers should be exactly this mailing list. * acco

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 8/2/2018 3:32 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 02.08.2018 03:24, Eric V. Smith wrote: On 8/1/2018 8:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote:     I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers     of other Python implementations in such a document, in     separate sections, e.g. for Jytho

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-02 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 02.08.2018 03:24, Eric V. Smith wrote: > On 8/1/2018 8:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: >>     I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers >>     of other Python implementations in such a document, in >>     separate sections, e.g. for Jython, IronPython, PyPy, >>     Stackless,

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Stefan Richthofer
> Hmm, I don't think it is should be our (CPython) responsibility to keep > track and maintain the list of the core devs of alternate Python > implementations. Don't they have their own community / website? They have > their own repo, bug tracker, governance model, and everything, right? > Core de

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 8/1/2018 8:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers of other Python implementations in such a document, in separate sections, e.g. for Jython, IronPython, PyPy, Stackless, etc Hmm, I don't think it is should be our (CPython

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
> > I think it would also be a good idea to include core developers > of other Python implementations in such a document, in > separate sections, e.g. for Jython, IronPython, PyPy, > Stackless, etc Hmm, I don't think it is should be our (CPython) responsibility to keep track and maintain the list

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 01.08.2018 23:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > > core devs,

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 01.08.2018 23:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > core devs, but now I can't find that email. I think the log is fine at it

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 01/08/2018 à 23:31, Jack Diederich a écrit : > https://hg.python.org/committers.txt Probably outdated, for example Pablo Salingo Salgado doesn't seem there. Regards Antoine. > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Mariatta Wijaya > mailto:mariatta.wij...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > See also a

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Jack Diederich
https://hg.python.org/committers.txt On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > core devs, but now I can

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant core devs, but now I can't find that email. Mariatta On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:15 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > It's become fair

[python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
It's become fairly obvious that we are missing a list of core developers on some site. One we can use as reference and one which core devs can also show to other to prove they are core developers. I guess the natural place for such a list is the dev guide, but we could also use a page on www.pytho